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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 9th, 2021, 18:17 
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Tomset wrote:
there are boards on the PLA380
PCB:
0A29374
0A29375

I see 0A29582 on both PCBs???

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 9th, 2021, 18:40 
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You are from Syria?
Where are you living now?
If you living in Egypt now, I can help you for free.
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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 9th, 2021, 18:46 
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fzabkar wrote:
Tomset wrote:
there are boards on the PLA380
PCB:
0A29374
0A29375

I see 0A29582 on both PCBs???

0A29374/0A29375 appear to be motor controller ICs, not PCB part numbers.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 9th, 2021, 18:51 
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fzabkar,
Yes, sorry, I looked in the wrong column.
F 0A29582 01
F 0A29526 01

I stop doing DR. Losses and age. There is no point in continuing to work. As soon as I check all the donors, I will lay out the tables in the sale of large lots.
You'll need them, but I won't.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 10th, 2021, 0:58 
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@ op
You are from Syria?
Where are you living now?
If you living in Egypt now, I can help you for free.
Good luck


I live in syria damascus
thank you very much for your offer


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 10th, 2021, 16:41 
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fzabkar,

on the both patientand donor PCB
v1 = 1.74
v2 = 1.74
v3 = 1.74
V+ = +5
V- = -5

Measurement for resistance for V+ and V- is between ground and the V (V+ or V-)
correct?


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 10th, 2021, 17:04 
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hddr wrote:
Measurement for resistance for V+ and V- is between ground and the V (V+ or V-)
correct?

Yes.

As for your voltages, I would have expected to see +3.3V somewhere. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 10th, 2021, 17:42 
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fzabkar wrote:
As for your voltages, I would have expected to see +3.3V somewhere. :?

I think you may be using the wrong ground reference. When measuring V1, V2 and V3, your black probe should be on ground, eg a screw hole.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 10th, 2021, 17:43 
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in the two PCBs resistance are:
R5 = 20

off drive
V+= 1900
V- = 110

on drive
V+ = 1500
V- = 20


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 10th, 2021, 17:56 
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hddr wrote:
in the two PCBs resistance are:
R5 = 20

off drive
V+= 1900
V- = 110

on drive
V+ = 1500
V- = 20

The resistance of R5 should be 0.47 ohms. :?

Resistance should be measured between the ends of the resistor, and it should be done with power switched off.

The resistances at V+ and V- should be measured between ground and each test point.

If you touch the two probes together, do you measure 0.0 ohms resistance?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 10th, 2021, 18:08 
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the problem is with the millimeter I used, Its not precise
the reading did not changed after connecting the two prop outside the PCB
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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 10th, 2021, 18:16 
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If your multimeter is showing 20 ohms when the two probes are touching each other, then this would imply that the V- supply, which is also measuring 20 ohms, is shorted inside your preamp. :-(

You can check whether your probes are OK by removing one probe and then measuring the resistance of the remaining probe by inserting the probe tip into the multimeter. Do this for each probe.

You should also rotate the selector knob backwards and forwards to disturb any contact oxidisation.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 10th, 2021, 18:20 
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fzabkar wrote:
If your multimeter is showing 20 ohms when the two probes are touching each other, then this would imply that the V- supply, which is also measuring 20 ohms, is shorted inside your preamp. :-(


and that mean it is hopeless case?


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 10th, 2021, 18:31 
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Yes, it would appear that your drive is not a DIY candidate, but an accurate measurement would give me more confidence in my assessment.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 10th, 2021, 18:35 
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I will arrange to get these measurement in better multimeter


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 11th, 2021, 8:01 
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fzabkar,

I do the following test:

Put the donor PCB on the donor drive and measure the V- and it was near 80 ohm
I assume that mean confirming the V- shorted inside the patient preamp as you mention before.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 11th, 2021, 9:02 
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If there was a bad preamp, it would start the motor while isolating the preamp.
Return the NVRAM to the new board, and check if you have already killed it.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 11th, 2021, 11:15 
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Tomset wrote:
If there was a bad preamp, it would start the motor while isolating the preamp.
Return the NVRAM to the new board, and check if you have already killed it.

so it may be more than one problem in this drive


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 12th, 2021, 1:25 
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fzabkar,

I do the following test:

Put the donor PCB on the donor drive and measure the V- and it was near 80 ohm
I assume that mean confirming the V- shorted inside the patient preamp as you mention before.

Please confirm.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitachi HDD data recovery
PostPosted: June 12th, 2021, 2:27 
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Are you still using the "bad" multimeter?

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