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Re: WD 1600jb external problem

September 21st, 2009, 2:31

harddrivespecialist wrote:
WLJohnson05 wrote:
harddrivespecialist wrote:Still have to find a new board and swap ROM.


the new board is on the way. just have to find someone around my area who can do the swap. i dont trust my solder skills enough to attempt it myself. any suggestions on places to attempt to take it to?


You still have my offer. :)



yea if i cant find someone round here who can do it for cheap, i prolly will send it to you. so what are the chances that this will actually fix my problem, at least long enough for me to pull my data off it?

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

September 21st, 2009, 5:05

Any young TV technician (with reasonable eyesight) can swap the EEPROM for you.

The preamp is inside the casing. To understand what's required to replace it, look here:

Head Stack Replacement: Questions and Answers (Author: Stanislav Korb):

http://hddguru.com/content/en/articles/ ... k-Q-and-A/

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

September 21st, 2009, 10:55

unknown20010 wrote:unfortunately, 80% your preamp is gone


fzabkar wrote:Any young TV technician (with reasonable eyesight) can swap the EEPROM for you.

The preamp is inside the casing. To understand what's required to replace it, look here:

Head Stack Replacement: Questions and Answers (Author: Stanislav Korb):

http://hddguru.com/content/en/articles/ ... k-Q-and-A/


ok, so how does that guy think that 80% of the preamp is gone if he cant see it?

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

September 21st, 2009, 11:01

Because GURUs are GURUs. Period.

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

September 21st, 2009, 11:29

BlackST wrote:Because GURUs are GURUs. Period.


haha right, so its kinda one of those things that tends to happen with these drives?

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

September 21st, 2009, 15:30

Most people posting to this forum are not native English speakers.

When he says that "unfortunately, 80% your preamp is gone", he actually means that there is an 80% chance that your preamp has been damaged, not that 80% of it has been damaged.

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

September 21st, 2009, 15:36

fzabkar wrote:Most people posting to this forum are not native English speakers.

When he says that "unfortunately, 80% your preamp is gone", he actually means that there is an 80% chance that your preamp has been damaged, not that 80% of it has been damaged.


o ok that makes more sense. does that tend to happen a lot when the pcb gets burned out or something?

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

September 21st, 2009, 16:11

WLJohnson05 wrote:
fzabkar wrote:When he says that "unfortunately, 80% your preamp is gone", he actually means that there is an 80% chance that your preamp has been damaged, not that 80% of it has been damaged.


o ok that makes more sense. does that tend to happen a lot when the pcb gets burned out or something?


I'm not in the DR business, but I'd say 80% is a lot ... ;-)

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

September 21st, 2009, 16:43

fzabkar wrote:
WLJohnson05 wrote:
fzabkar wrote:When he says that "unfortunately, 80% your preamp is gone", he actually means that there is an 80% chance that your preamp has been damaged, not that 80% of it has been damaged.


o ok that makes more sense. does that tend to happen a lot when the pcb gets burned out or something?


I'm not in the DR business, but I'd say 80% is a lot ... ;-)


any clue what causes that to go out just bc some other piece goes out?

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

September 21st, 2009, 18:05

Mr.BlackST :)

fzabkar: that's actually what I mean :D

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

September 21st, 2009, 18:46

WLJohnson05 wrote:any clue what causes [the preamp] to go out just bc some other piece goes out?


Again, I'm not a DR guy, but I believe the motor controller chip generates the negative supply rail for the preamp. The damage to the controller looks to be in the vicinity of the spindle motor phase drivers, but perhaps this also spikes the supply rails to the preamp.

I'm just guessing, though ...

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

September 21st, 2009, 18:58

fzabkar wrote:
WLJohnson05 wrote:any clue what causes [the preamp] to go out just bc some other piece goes out?


Again, I'm not a DR guy, but I believe the motor controller chip generates the negative supply rail for the preamp. The damage to the controller looks to be in the vicinity of the spindle motor phase drivers, but perhaps this also spikes the supply rails to the preamp.

I'm just guessing, though ...



gotcha, that makes sense....well i guess i just have to cross my fingers and hope that i can get this thing going at least long enough to yank all my data off, then it can die and rest in piece haha

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

October 21st, 2009, 19:43

got the new board and everything is working perfect now. transferring all the files over to another drive, but it did work with just the board.

Re: WD 1600jb external problem

October 21st, 2009, 21:47

i also want to say thanks to HDDMANIA for doing the swap on the boards for me. great job
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