WD5000AAKS-00TMA0 PCB needs changing???

[HDD Spaz]

...maybe Frank wiill go in halfs with you as he is such a helpful guy.

HDD Spaz, would you kindly fuck off?
I took a calculated risk, and it appears not to have worked.

Shame on me...

Besides, Franc was actually HELPFUL, which I cannot say to the rest of you.

LOL

[jono-ats]

Maybe if you fix the broken trace you will have better luck. Sub that out to someone with better soldering skills.

Re: fzabkar: "Shout louder!" he said. "Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened."

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[hddguy]

Besides, Franc was actually HELPFUL, which I cannot say to the rest of you.

Of course he was, it was not his data to take a risk with...

[guru]

Just as a side note:

Removing the TVS does not always fix the problem and you could end up with smoke in your face. There is a reason for the TVS failing in the first place. Also the same for a fuse (zero ohm resistor)

But as you say it was a risk, sometimes you get lucky. Bad luck,

[dick]

Unfortunately I think the original diagnosis was incorrect........

It's COMPLETELY unresponsive.
I look at the BIOs, it's not recognised.
I tried it in another computer. Nothing. No whirring, no sound.

In my experience when a TVS does it's job it will fuse and sometimes burn. In its short circuited condition the pc power supply should not even come on as its internal protection circuit will stop it from doing so.

So why is the drive not powering up? Well there is a more than good chance the head preamp is damaged causing the drive to not spin up. In this scenario the pc is still able to power on, even with the drive in this condition.

Got to say to you Hedgehog, your soldering skills are crap in contrast with your photography skills, your photos are pretty good so it's best to stick to what you know.

Looking at the pictures the damage you have done is minor and could be repaired but as the original diagnosis looks suspect I would say repairing the board won't make much difference as it would already have been damaged when the drive died. Thats not your fault but sheer bad luck.

Make contact with one of the UK based guys here and they will get your data back, obviously for an agreed price. Good luck!

[fzabkar]

Don't panic, hedgehog. And don't listen to the FUD.

You haven't done any damage at all, other than lifting a copper trace with your oversized iron. This is easily fixed. Just relax and step back a bit.

Be prepared for your drive to have other failures. A TVS diode can only do so much. Sometimes the surge goes straight past it. That said, any additional fault will not have been the result of anything you have done.

Once again, relax, and watch your mailbox.

[hddguy]

Don't panic, hedgehog. And don't listen to the FUD.

Not listening to the 'FUD' is half the problem.

You haven't done any damage at all,

Clearly he has.

This is easily fixed.

This is an opinion, not a fact.

Be prepared for your drive to have other failures.

How would you advice he 'prepare' ? Maybe if user knew the possibility of 'other failures' he may not have attempted a DIY fix on a disk containing important information.

A TVS diode can only do so much.

such as protect a disk from damage that would normally occur, and may still occur after its removal

any additional fault will not have been the result of anything you have done.

Are you really sure about this? Or are you taking the responsibility of the users actions?

Once again, relax, and watch your mailbox.

Yep, more irresponsible advice to follow

[fzabkar]

Don't panic, hedgehog. And don't listen to the FUD.

Not listening to the 'FUD' is half the problem.

You haven't done any damage at all,

Clearly he has.

This is easily fixed.

This is an opinion, not a fact.

Be prepared for your drive to have other failures.

How would you advice he 'prepare' ? Maybe if user knew the possibility of 'other failures' he may not have attempted a DIY fix on a disk containing important information.

A TVS diode can only do so much.

such as protect a disk from damage that would normally occur, and may still occur after its removal

any additional fault will not have been the result of anything you have done.

Are you really sure about this? Or are you taking the responsibility of the users actions?

Once again, relax, and watch your mailbox.

Yep, more irresponsible advice to follow

FUD.

[hddguy]

[HDD Spaz]

A story of 3 f's.

Don't listen to Fzabkar, listen to the FUD or your disk be FUBAR!

[lcoughey]

A story of 3 f's.

Don't listen to Fzabkar, listen to the FUD or your disk be FUBAR!

Well said. Ever think of writing a DDIY (Don't Do It Yourself) manual? The above statement could be the opening line.

[BlackST]

I forgot the popcorn...

[Alexii]

very professional attitude from the pillars of DR community.
Sad day.

[hddguy]

Professional advice was given, recomendation for professional service was made, but still the user knew better, and we are all after the users money for a repair that is so obviously simple

What does anyone expect? Good advice was ignored, bad advice was followed, now data may be beyond any DIY repair, and all for reluctance to seek professional help for what would have been a low cost recovery.

If someone is blind to logic, what are we expected to do?

[Alexii]

act professional and keep ur peace. Not troll and make amazing bible references like its a world of warcraft forum.

[hddguy]

act professional and keep ur peace. Not troll and make amazing bible references like its a world of warcraft forum.

Im sure your a regular at the WOW forum

[MadMex]

Professional advice was given, recomendation for professional service was made, but still the user knew better, and we are all after the users money for a repair that is so obviously simple

What does anyone expect? Good advice was ignored, bad advice was followed, now data may be beyond any DIY repair, and all for reluctance to seek professional help for what would have been a low cost recovery.

If someone is blind to logic, what are we expected to do?

Agreed, the TVS's are there for a reason, and if the root cause is a twitchy Power Supply then you have effectively removed the meager layer of defense the drive has against such protection. Plugging the drive back into the same PS that blew your PCB to begin with can come with a price.

TVS removal does not equal DR panacea.

[Alexii]

act professional and keep ur peace. Not troll and make amazing bible references like its a world of warcraft forum.

Im sure your a regular at the WOW forum

And the funny part is - i am not.
I am a regular on EVEs forum though.

[jono-ats]

act professional and keep ur peace. Not troll and make amazing bible references like its a world of warcraft forum.

2nd rule: Not have any sense of humor at all . . .

[Alexii]

i do have a sence of humor. Didnt find anything funny in this topic however. Carry on gents.