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Re: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 PCB of Doom...

September 23rd, 2010, 15:11

You meant ZFS right ? :)

Re: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 PCB of Doom...

September 23rd, 2010, 16:52

Ext2 Installable File System For Windows (freeware):
http://www.fs-driver.org/

"It installs a pure kernel mode file system driver Ext2fs.sys, which actually extends the Windows operating system to include the Ext2 file system. Since it is executed on the same software layer at the Windows NT operating system core like all of the native file system drivers of Windows (for instance NTFS, FASTFAT, or CDFS for Joliet/ISO CD-ROMs), all applications can access directly to Ext2 volumes. Ext2 volumes get drive letters (for instance O:). Files, and directories of an Ext2 volume appear in file dialogs of all applications. There is no need to copy files from or to Ext2 volumes in order to work with them."

Does the Ext2 driver access Ext3 volumes, too?
http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3

"The Ext3 file system is the Ext2 file system which has been extended by journaling. Ext3 is backward-compatible to Ext2 - an Ext3 volume can be mounted and used as an Ext2 volume. Just as older Linux Kernels which do not know the Ext3 file system can mount Ext3 volumes (as Ext2 volumes), the Ext2 file system driver ext2fs.sys for Windows incorporated in this software package can do it."

"The Ext2 file system driver of the Ext2 IFS software will refuse mounting an Ext3 file system which contains data in its journal, just like older Linux kernels which have no Ext3 support. In this way data loss and damaging the file system is avoided when the journal is subsequently replayed. So you can access only those Ext3 volumes with the Ext2 IFS software which have been cleanly dismounted beforehand."

Re: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 PCB of Doom...

September 23rd, 2010, 16:56

It does not give errors on mounting though. If its pure ext3 then it should be fine. But if it has some tweaked values this method will fail and not provide any thorough error.

But its worth a try.. And it actually does work very well/

Re: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 PCB of Doom...

September 23rd, 2010, 20:01

FixItTech,

If you are a legit CHARITY, contact me via PM. I'm in Colorado. If you really didn't kill the drive by doing your trial&error approach, we may be able to get the data back...

Legit Charity = Pure NON-PROFIT & providing services to any race, religions and nationality assisting children or needy people = Postage may be the only expense for the data.

Depends on where you are in Colorado, we may be able to pick it up from your Charity Location!!!

PS. If this is a so-called Non-Profit Charity but the Director or employees are making Buku $$$ as their salary, Free Charity Work is not available!!!!

Re: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 PCB of Doom...

September 23rd, 2010, 21:03

ppumkin wrote:OK - this blue rings NAS drive runs a Linux OS. The hard drive is formatted in EXT3 Fielsystem that windows cannot pick up.

Now my best advice to you is. Find a local computer technician that KNOWS how to use Linux .. Ubuntu Live CD for example... OK not somebody who thinks they know computers.. Somebody who KNOWS LINUX!

Please do not attempt todo this your self!
It looks like it uses a normal linux partition and not some cosmic stuff to make live difficult - the white edition might.

You need to start this linux - mount the hard drive in there and copy the data off it! OK

Its that simple for somebody who knows linux..
---If it is not- and you run into problems while mounting the hard drive in LINUX - Jut write down the error and leave it alone. Then i suggest going to the WD forums! As those bofs will help you step by step..

Just slow down or you will loose your data.


I appreciate the brakes on my panic lol :oops:

I did try Linux. Two versions. RIP that comes loaded with Hirens, and Ubuntu Live. It just doesn't see it.

And before anyone else starts thinking that I am some crack Newb--
I am well versed in various versions of Linux, electronic repair and component level work. I put the board back in after feeling confident about the voltage going in and being processed.

Also, to the gentlemen who is drawing some rather inappropriate conclusions about the nature of our work here, we are a registered 501c3 outside of Colorado Springs. We are an all volunteer organization (save for the receptionist), and have been operating for 20 years. www.htntc.org is our website.

Please forgive me if I have offended anyone. I think this whole this is working my last nerve. I hope you understand. I am very grateful for everyones help.

I'm going to take another crack at a LiveCD, now that I've had a nap and I'm less cranky. :roll:

Re: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 PCB of Doom...

September 24th, 2010, 1:58

Just try UFS Explorer.

Re: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 PCB of Doom...

September 24th, 2010, 2:29

Agrees with DR-Kiev.

UFS Explorerer might just well mount the partition if it's ZFS, try it.

Re: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 PCB of Doom...

September 24th, 2010, 3:02

pcimage wrote:UFS Explorerer might just well mount the partition if it's ZFS, try it.


About zFS Black-ST just joking :) . It is mostly used on Solaris stations, and often based on RaidZ arrays. And, by the way, the virtual machines (vmdk) there pulled out with out any trouble.

Re: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 PCB of Doom...

September 24th, 2010, 10:37

drc wrote:so the cap I was looking at was blown. After getting it replaced, I am now getting a whirrrr-CLICK, whirrrr-CLICK noise, but it will go away after a min or so, but I'm still not getting lights on the ethernet or the front leds.... I am still hanging onto the bad cap=bad board theory I've come up with. Just cause you find one bad apple, there's generally going to be another.


Where can I get the version of Linux that will solve this??? :mrgreen:

Whirrr-CLICK, Whirrr-Click, Whirrr-Click and spindown... i want that MagicLinux!!!

Re: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 PCB of Doom...

September 24th, 2010, 11:53

@dr-kiev, not zfs, the Zetera stuff !

Re: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 PCB of Doom...

September 25th, 2010, 0:04

Hold on guys. This seems to be well off track. The drive had failed with pcb issues and potentially voltage issues. After some work it spins but spins and clicks and eventually spins down, probably then going into kernel mode. This is now in the realm of professional recovery as no software tool will get beyond a SA load problem.

I would suspect (diagnosis from afar) that a donor pcb and firmware swap will be required, but there may also be head or platter issues. As the NAS was crashing for a while before hand I would also expect bad sectors possibly finally in the SA that are now causing the current problem.

You have been offered professional help above by somebody close, possibly even for free. I would take that, even if only to get a professional diagnosis and know if you have any hope of 1/ getting the data back and 2/ getting it back yourself without professional help.

I often do the assessement for clients who want to try it for themselves (I am too far away
to help you). Most times the job comes back eventually, especially when people weigh up the value of the data (I do charity work at huge discounts as often there simply is no money to do normal IT processes such as backups).

Re: WD5000AAVS-00ZTB0 PCB of Doom...

September 25th, 2010, 6:23

Yea this recovery went pear shaped after he plugged it back into the "repaired" nas and caused a pcb issue and who knows what else.
Only speculation is left now. So the best option is for somebody with excellent experience to help now.
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