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Re: Reallocated sector count 2752835 on HTS541680J9S(80gb)

January 27th, 2011, 8:40

You seem to be continuing to rely on using SMART to predict the failure of your drive, despite repeated advice not to do that, so I will limit my wasted time by giving short answers (all IMHO, of course).

dhiman33 wrote:a)S.M.A.R.T. isn't very reliable and my hdd can fail even before S.M.A.R.T fails.

I would not agree with describing SMART as not "reliable" - you are just expecting too much from it. It is always true that a disk can fail before reporting a SMART predictive failure. SMART was never expected or designed to predict all types of failure.

dhiman33 wrote:b)My hdd has 42 reallocated sectors, the number is not 323.

Based on my experience, I believe that is correct, but as has already been explained to you, the raw data for this parameter is not actually in a documented format and is therefore open to interpretation.

dhiman33 wrote:c)Until the normalised value drops from 100, there's nothing to worry whatever the sector count is.

I politely disagree.

dhiman33 wrote:e)My hdd has atleast 500 available sectors for reallocation [...] So until the number reaches this limit...the hdd has low probability of failure.

I politely disagree.

Good luck...

Re: Reallocated sector count 2752835 on HTS541680J9S(80gb)

January 27th, 2011, 21:16

Once a few bad sectors appear; odds are things will probably get worse, and probably get worse pretty quickly (over the course of a month or so).

Replace the disk, and/or keep a backup. You should always keep a backup. Always.

Re: Reallocated sector count 2752835 on HTS541680J9S(80gb)

February 3rd, 2011, 18:14

Vulcan wrote:Therefore the Moose drives don't appear to follow the same formula as you describe on your (non-Moose) drives - but as we know, the algorithms used to produce the "cooked" values are commercially sensitive (perhaps not linear?)

Again, just for comparison purposes, below is the SMART report for a ST32000542AS Barracuda LP drive with 2800 reallocated sectors and a cooked value of 32. This represents a loss of 1 point per 41 sectors, so it appears that the attribute may in fact be linear.

http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Barracuda- ... 372#M22886

Re: Reallocated sector count 2752835 on HTS541680J9S(80gb)

August 6th, 2011, 17:26

so Dhiman33, its been a few months since your posts about the re-allocation sectors and I was wondering if your HDD is still working or if you have re-placed it ? Mine is showing something like yours was only not quite as high of numbers as yours, mine is showing at 1507517 sectors, and I need to know if it can be fixed or if I need to go ahead and start checking into a new hard-drive ? So what ended up happening with yours, still kicking or got a new one and backed up your files ? what did you use to back up your files ? I have some USB sticks I wiill probably use to back mine up, but I have no idea how long I have. Any info you can give would help immensely, as I just got this computer and have had it for about a week and just found this out about it. I have an HP Compaq Presario X6000 with a 60 gb HDD and I am probably going to go with a 100gb hdd if I have to get a new one, what did you get for yours if you had to re-place the old one ?

Re: Reallocated sector count 2752835 on HTS541680J9S(80gb)

August 7th, 2011, 0:57

ruseriousb511 wrote:so Dhiman33, its been a few months since your posts about the re-allocation sectors and I was wondering if your HDD is still working or if you have re-placed it ? Mine is showing something like yours was only not quite as high of numbers as yours, mine is showing at 1507517 sectors, and I need to know if it can be fixed or if I need to go ahead and start checking into a new hard-drive ? So what ended up happening with yours, still kicking or got a new one and backed up your files ? what did you use to back up your files ? I have some USB sticks I wiill probably use to back mine up, but I have no idea how long I have. Any info you can give would help immensely, as I just got this computer and have had it for about a week and just found this out about it. I have an HP Compaq Presario X6000 with a 60 gb HDD and I am probably going to go with a 100gb hdd if I have to get a new one, what did you get for yours if you had to re-place the old one ?

In theory can be fixed BUT NOT BY END USER, practically I think your disk has simply reached end of life and won't survive the repair process or lead to uncertain result. Replace it, as 2nd hand 60-120 Gb are cheap.
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