I'm not sure I understand what you mean.. What is that position you stand by?

From what you are saying, is that you don't want to provide any help at all, because you care for the sake of data that is of no value to you, for which the person itself fully understands the risks and agrees to lose in case of a bad outcome? Eh? And if that happens, you feel morally responsible and it makes sense to take the blame for it?

I don't know, but this seems a bit confusing.. If you want to help - do it, if, however, you are determined not to - there is no point in blaming the user for attempting DIY when he made a clear decision due to not having any other choice.

@electroglow,

Since you've given your opinion about warnings regarding DIY, I'll give mine.


Please can you show the quote where the OP says that they are aware of the risks?


Please can you show the quote where the OP says that they accept the risks completely, and that they are authorised to do so on behalf of the disk's owner? (Remember, it's not the OP's disk!)


Please can you show the quote where the OP says he is "not in the position of spending $ for a DR office"?

It's not the OP's disk, so his comments are not necessarily what the disk's owner has said. Also I see nowhere where he says he is not going to pay for a "DR office" - I only found the comment that £700 was a "mad price". IMHO that is not the same as "he is not in the position of spending $ for a DR office" - a lower quote may have been acceptable to the disk's owner.


That does not mean that the risks and potential consequences have been really understood. We see many times where new people post here are trying to recover data, using inappropriate software and techniques, and have made recovery much harder, or impossible, because they did not realise that they could make things worse by their DIY attempts.


I don't see anywhere that the OP says: "The disk's owner is fully aware of the dangers, and they have authorised DIY to be done by me, the OP, even if it makes the data unrecoverable later by a professional", but I look forward to seeing the quotations from the OP which make you believe that the disk's owner has effectively said that.

IMHO just because someone is doing DIY, does not mean that they understand and accept the risks, and in this case, there is the added complication that the disk does not belong to the OP.

Without a clear understanding of the risks and potential consequences of DIY (which IMHO many people doing DIY don't have), then I believe that giving warnings about DIY is better than not giving them. Not giving warnings can lead to accusations that the people replying are taking a cavalier attitude to the customer's data - so based on your recent comments, and my previous experience on the board, it seems that giving or not giving DIY warnings, will both lead to criticism! That makes it impossible to please everyone

@Vulcan thanks mate, you just saved me from a lot of time and trouble trying to explain - I wouldn't have done it better myself!

I see no point in keeping this thread in my active log; if electroglow wants to guide OP in DIY, he/she is free to. I've made my point and I see no reason to keep this going.

Good luck to OP.

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@northwind,


Thanks. I don't expect that electroglow will agree with my comments (which is fine with me - I'm not trying to convince anyone to change their opinions) but I think it is important to show that there are different views, as you also explained.