Data recovery and disk repair questions and discussions related to old-fashioned SATA, SAS, SCSI, IDE, MFM hard drives - any type of storage device that has moving parts
April 8th, 2015, 14:19
Backblaze did a neat study of ~40K drives and their failure rates. I like to point people to this study when they ask this question because it has neat, easy to read graphs about the failure rates and seems relatively comprehensive.
April 8th, 2015, 16:03
mondrian wrote:Backblaze did a neat study of ~40K drives and their failure rates. I like to point people to this study when they ask this question because it has neat, easy to read graphs about the failure rates and seems relatively comprehensive.
The Seagate DM001 figure speaks volumes!!!
April 9th, 2015, 5:22
The low failure rate in addition to the high number of tested drives on the 4TB DM, is however surprising.
April 12th, 2015, 10:39
I feel Toshiba Enterprise Hard disks are rugged and are using more reliable components , but on downside from recovery point of view they could be complex if CP's are lost.
April 19th, 2015, 10:17
What the heck happened to Seagate? It seems like we were using their drives and they were okay but then took a rather sudden fall off a cliff starting about 1.5 or 2 years ago.
Their 2.5" drivers were always crap, IMHO.
April 19th, 2015, 12:23
athena wrote:I feel Toshiba Enterprise Hard disks are rugged and are using more reliable components , but on downside from recovery point of view they could be complex if CP's are lost.
I've yet to see a Toshiba with lost CP.... I've always been able to read it or at the very least physically transfer the chip and then read it. Except in cases of lost PCB I guess, but that's a self inflicted catastrophe.
April 19th, 2015, 12:28
cgallery wrote:What the heck happened to Seagate? It seems like we were using their drives and they were okay but then took a rather sudden fall off a cliff starting about 1.5 or 2 years ago.
Their 2.5" drivers were always crap, IMHO.
My opinion, and this is just my opinion, is that they seriously cut their R&D budget for HDDs and then opened up new "budget" factories in China with less QC to cut costs (actually heard about that from a guy in China). That money saved was instead spent to buy NAND flash companies and further R&D toward the SSD market which we all know is the future of data storage.
I think they are sacrificing the Seagate name and reputation to build a strong base in SSDs which I'm guessing they might later sell under another name such as Sandforce, or LSI. Companies which they now own.
April 20th, 2015, 8:47
You will get bad sectors in no time my friend
That temperatures are very high
At least put a fan next to the drives
April 20th, 2015, 11:48
If doesn't matter if it isn't backed up.
April 20th, 2015, 12:02
cgallery wrote:What the heck happened to Seagate? It seems like we were using their drives and they were okay but then took a rather sudden fall off a cliff starting about 1.5 or 2 years ago.
Their 2.5" drivers were always crap, IMHO.
I thought that the 7200.11 line was the start of the decline. At least that's how it looks in the user forums. At that time they released an untested firmware update for the BSY bug and had to pull it almost immediately after it bricked a whole bunch of drives. More recently, about 3 or 4 years ago, they released another untested update for their 1TB-per-platter line which didn't work on any drive, and they still haven't bothered to fix it, even though I fixed it for them myself 3 years ago. ISTM that they have a serious QC attitude problem.
April 28th, 2015, 15:51
avecvous9 wrote:I have not way to go back,the HDDs are already bought. Besides, it looks stable just 52°c.
Update: I used a fan to cool the HDD. The temperature dropped to 31°.
April 29th, 2015, 16:20
too much hot... be carefull
4 have four wd drives on my computer and they are running from 28 - 37 degrees celsius
May 1st, 2015, 5:26
I'm so annoyed at Seagate. I used to enjoy working on them but ever since Samsung partnership they've got so bad that even the screws they use are mushy and crap!
I took a chance on a 1TB SSHD for my personal computer, just for extra storage and I've already had to re-format it 3 times!
In terms of easy recoverability though, 2.5" Western Digital are may favourite drives for a head swap. 5 minutes or less
May 1st, 2015, 6:30
old Maxtor drives
May 1st, 2015, 10:02
Hello World!
Was surprised that I don't see "every brand has similar problem".
Personally I did not have good experience with Toshiba 2.5". Both are not mine though. They're relatively new with less than 100 hours power on time, already giving click-of-death. I think they boughtover from another vendor but I couldn't remember which one.
Also didn't have good experience with Seagate 3.5". Mainly reallocated sectors.
Wanted to stay away from WD Green, but I've waited like 2 years for a 2TB Blue. It's Year 3 now, and still no blue, so I doubt there'll ever be one. Other non-green 2TB costs much more. So I got mine last year. I'm hoping these are dual-platters to reduce heat generation. Don't have a weighing maching home to weigh them.
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