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Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 23rd, 2016, 16:59

Have a hot air rework station and microscope so moving the chip physically is not an issue. What I need to know is if there's anything else needed after that?

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 23rd, 2016, 19:46

To get other board working you need send me your board. I will read your drive rom and put it in my board and send it to you. Or I will just send you my board and you need physically move biggest square chip from your board to my board.

How much data do you have on this drive? If it's not a lot, I could ask you to send me sector ranges, I will decrypt them and send you back.

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 23rd, 2016, 20:36

You can read the ROM (U12) of the original PCB using an MHDD or HDDSuperTool script. This would obviate the necessity to ship the original PCB. I could help the OP with this, if necessary.

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 23rd, 2016, 20:53

drHDD wrote:This drive has ROM in marvel


No external ROM (U12)

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 23rd, 2016, 21:08

drHDD wrote:To get other board working you need send me your board. I will read your drive rom and put it in my board and send it to you. Or I will just send you my board and you need physically move biggest square chip from your board to my board.

How much data do you have on this drive? If it's not a lot, I could ask you to send me sector ranges, I will decrypt them and send you back.


Ok moving the chip myself should not be a problem.
Don't know the amount of data on the drive, the owner said it was "not much" but I never trust the end user to know/tell the truth.
Still would like to know the full cost + shipping (even if estimated) so I can inform the owner what he is in for.

Whichever way is easier for you drHDD, I can send the board, or send the sector ranges as long as you can explain how I can get what you need to make it work.

And....

fzabkar wrote:You can read the ROM (U12) of the original PCB using an MHDD or HDDSuperTool script. This would obviate the necessity to ship the original PCB. I could help the OP with this, if necessary


I can do this as well, to be sure, as long as fzabkar is willing to help also.

Thanks everyone

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 23rd, 2016, 21:10

Try Sediv:

http://sediv2008.narod.ru/Easy3.9Passwo ... 567890.rar
http://sediv2008.narod.ru/Settings.rar

SeDiv WD Read ROM & Modules:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UgFfhkkAwY

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 24th, 2016, 10:08

fzabkar wrote:Try Sediv:

http://sediv2008.narod.ru/Easy3.9Passwo ... 567890.rar
http://sediv2008.narod.ru/Settings.rar

SeDiv WD Read ROM & Modules:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UgFfhkkAwY


So far have not got SeDiv to run.
Tried in miniXP and it crashes right way.
Installed win7 on a spare HD and got an error that SeDiv crashed but stays running in the task mgr.

Any other requirements for this besides the vague screenshots included?

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 24th, 2016, 10:41

This what I get with SeDiv
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Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 24th, 2016, 11:53

Shipping to California - CA$6 without tracking number, CA$17 with tracking number. Both are by air.

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 24th, 2016, 15:26

Try WDR Demo:
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=33

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 24th, 2016, 17:54

Could you save to files sector 0 and sector 625137672 and give it to me?

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 24th, 2016, 18:46

Drive is encrypted (Inic-1607E). There are few ways how to solve it. Chose what you prefare.
1) Make image to the new drive and decrypt after (by control PCB from old WD MyBook).
2) Find new PCB (USB) with the same fw or transfer there the original fw (by reading/copying fw or transfer MPU by soldering).
3) Send to DR guy/company drive or encrypted image.

May be I miss something but hope it's clear about general idea. ;)

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 24th, 2016, 21:13

drHDD wrote:Shipping to California - CA$6 without tracking number, CA$17 with tracking number. Both are by air.
Could you save to files sector 0 and sector 625137672 and give it to me?


Thanks that seems reasonable, definitely would want tracking. Where are they shipping from?
Soon as I find a way to save those sectors I will.

fzabkar wrote:Try WDR Demo:
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=33


Thanks I'll try that tonight.

Martin wrote:Drive is encrypted (Inic-1607E). There are few ways how to solve it. Chose what you prefare.
1) Make image to the new drive and decrypt after (by control PCB from old WD MyBook).
2) Find new PCB (USB) with the same fw or transfer there the original fw (by reading/copying fw or transfer MPU by soldering).
3) Send to DR guy/company drive or encrypted image.

May be I miss something but hope it's clear about general idea.


Thanks Martin that helps.

I'm still unclear if simply transferring the 1 chip is all that is needed.
This is purely for my own knowledge.

I assume the process is:

1. Remove the PCB from the HD.
2. Desolider the chip from the defective PCB.
3. Desolider the same chip from the new PCB.
4. Attach/solider the chip from the defective PCB to the new PCB.
5. Attach the new PCB to the HD.
6. Connect HD via USB to a PC and simply copy the data to another drive.

Lastly, how sensitive are these chips to heat or rather how much heat would damage these chips?
Normally I don't worry about this doing rework with my hot air station because most jelly bean components are cheap to replace.
But since this has firmware, I'm assuming I'd want to be more care full.

Thanks

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 24th, 2016, 21:44

fzabkar wrote:Try WDR Demo:
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=33


What now?
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Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 24th, 2016, 22:26

I'm still unclear if simply transferring the 1 chip is all that is needed.


In your case, ROM with drive fw is in the MPU (external 8-pin serial flash chip contains code for USB bridge Inic-1607E). So if you could not to read ROM via SATA interface (probably, playing with x-modem is complicated a little bit) you have to transfer MPU on a new compatible PCB (if you are very lucky, a new PCB could have compatible fw/head map that can prevent transfer MPU). Otherwise, you can make image (it will stay encrypted) via SATA interface and decrypt it after.

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 25th, 2016, 10:29

Martin wrote:
(if you are very lucky, a new PCB could have compatible fw/head map that can prevent transfer MPU). Otherwise, you can make image (it will stay encrypted) via SATA interface and decrypt it after.

It's this "lucky" part of the process that throws me.
Guess I'm just used to working with known processes in which if you do "A" and then do "B" then you get "C" no maybes or hope involved.

Also your last statement to make an image and decrypt later....decrypt later with what? Thought the purpose of getting the PCB is to allow decryption. I can already access the drive via SATA so not sure what you mean

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 25th, 2016, 10:34

Forgot to mention. I was bored last night and fired up ddrescue. Created an image file of the HD.

Don't know if it will help, but at least I have it.

Maybe I can compress the image enough where someone can download it from me and decrypt it.

Thanks

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 25th, 2016, 11:02

Send to Frank. As he would be using free programs to do it, the cost shouldn't be more than $10.

Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 25th, 2016, 16:16

Try using HDDSuperTool to dump the ROM:
http://www.sdcomputingservice.com/hddsupertool

I have attached an untested script which will attempt to extract a 256KB ROM image from your PCB.

To extract a 512KB image, change the following line from ...

    seti $chunks = 4

... to ...

    seti $chunks = 8

The script is safe -- it does not write to your drive's firmware.
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Re: WD3200BMVV SATA conversion screw up

August 25th, 2016, 16:56

fzabkar wrote:To extract a 512KB image, change the following line from ...

    seti $chunks = 4

... to ...

    seti $chunks = 8

You should also change this line from ...

    24 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04

... to ...

    24 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08

I have also used a slightly different method (which the author suggests is more reliable). It reads the ROM, "sector by sector".

See the attachment.
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