June 10th, 2005, 16:37
Ontrack is just in 5 minutes from us… Nice 
RE:Hi guys
June 10th, 2005, 22:02
Wow!!! AF & Ontrack have a fun time.
Most of Canadian and US people know this two giant company.
Better we are not in Canada and US market.
I'm sure the HDD vendor will join venture to Bigest DR company in country and will not able to invested on DR market. They will think of return of profit, time and many headache of user. They will do on marketing and not technical. I know that this because HDD vendor was join venture with us before be a warranty Collection centre.
Actually, what we wanted to do now is do the best DR in ours own country.
Such like AF and Ontrack. Once the HDD vendor wanted start on DR, I think they will join venture with Biggest DR company in country.
I think the best HDD machine, tools and equipment is from US and not others. Because world 3 biggest HDD founder also from US company.
I'm here is just give comman and hope my information is right.
If I'm wrong please don't scold me. he he....
Most of Canadian and US people know this two giant company.
Better we are not in Canada and US market.
I'm sure the HDD vendor will join venture to Bigest DR company in country and will not able to invested on DR market. They will think of return of profit, time and many headache of user. They will do on marketing and not technical. I know that this because HDD vendor was join venture with us before be a warranty Collection centre.
Actually, what we wanted to do now is do the best DR in ours own country.
Such like AF and Ontrack. Once the HDD vendor wanted start on DR, I think they will join venture with Biggest DR company in country.
I think the best HDD machine, tools and equipment is from US and not others. Because world 3 biggest HDD founder also from US company.
I'm here is just give comman and hope my information is right.
If I'm wrong please don't scold me. he he....
June 11th, 2005, 7:29
Tony wrote:Do you think so? Action Front has very smart russian techs! And all data recovery tools come from where??? Right... Russia.
Unfortunately, it's gonna be a bit tight for AF now. Ontrack had oppened a new facility in Toronto, so I'm sure that canadian companies will have fun...
Yes I think so..................................... Nothing against the guys at Action Front
I am sure Ontrack has some clever guys to .....one day maybe we will know ;oP AF 1 Ontrk 0 
June 11th, 2005, 7:32
guru wrote:Tony wrote:Do you think so? Action Front has very smart russian techs! And all data recovery tools come from where??? Right... Russia.
Unfortunately, it's gonna be a bit tight for AF now. Ontrack had oppened a new facility in Toronto, so I'm sure that canadian companies will have fun...
Yes I think so..................................... Nothing against the guys at Action Front
BTW before the Russian guys arrived I would not have said AF was so hot in the technical area ;OPPP Now .......Better for sure
July 3rd, 2005, 16:05
guru wrote:BTW before the Russian guys arrived I would not have said AF was so hot in the technical area ;OPPP Now .......Better for sure
Yes, Actionfront hired some Russians - but give them credit. They solved the Fujitsu MPG problem six months before any other data recovery company and they did it all in house, before they even knew anything about the Russian HD community. They only heard of PC3000 when competitors started fixing Fujitsu's as well. Then they sent two vice presidents to Russia and started dealing with them. Now most Russians with them are senior recovery managers, not in research.
Also the Signaltrace (which they have just sold to the United States government) was all developed by three researchers inside the company for almost ten years. Most DR companies do research when a job comes in the door - AF has "fulltime" 5 researchers for many years. Research not recovery.
Seagate picked them after looking at EVERY data recovery company in the world. They got contract over Ontrack, Ibas, Vogon, Drivesavers, etc. Same as Iomega and Quantum. AF beat Ontrack every time.
When the drive companies look at who is best - they muct see something we don't.
As for Ontrack going to Canada, 80% of Actionfront work is in United States - and now they are opening in Europe. http://forums.actionfront.com/showthread.php?t=605
I heard Ontrack tried to buy them five years ago - big mistake. Now Ontrack is second place.
P.S. - I think Seagte now owns part of Actionfront. That's why president retired.
July 4th, 2005, 6:32
thanks techinvest,
seems to make sense, besides interesting reading.
Actually it would be nice to confirm who first found the fujitsu problem
and the obvious solution.
Also care to comment on whether someone is going to buy acelab and shut them down !!
seems to make sense, besides interesting reading.
Actually it would be nice to confirm who first found the fujitsu problem
and the obvious solution.
Also care to comment on whether someone is going to buy acelab and shut them down !!
July 5th, 2005, 7:04
Yes I think so.... Just America is stupid 
Tony wrote:Do you think so? Action Front has very smart russian techs! And all data recovery tools come from where??? Right... Russia.
Unfortunately, it's gonna be a bit tight for AF now. Ontrack had oppened a new facility in Toronto, so I'm sure that canadian companies will have fun...
July 5th, 2005, 13:04
techinvest wrote:
This is infact interesting reading. Can you backup your statement with some documentation?
Much appreciated!
Also the Signaltrace (which they have just sold to the United States government)
This is infact interesting reading. Can you backup your statement with some documentation?
Much appreciated!
July 5th, 2005, 20:57
yes , right.... AF people are doing all these thing. they are doing recoveries for seagate and iomega and some other companies. they also bought cherry system... anyway only bad thing is that they are using seagte name. and at first to those people who do not know ; seems seagate is doing this recovery. well one suggestion try writing to seagate that either do recovery your self or put the name of the company doing it for them. if every body write to them i hope they listen. i know AF they good company and good techs. now they have alot of russian tech, true. they should just put there name up there and be proud, and dont misguide the people ... i still beleive if i work hard i will earn my bread....
July 6th, 2005, 5:55
Thats BIG BULLSHIT AF never was the first comapny to solve MPG problems...........................................................
It was not a big problem to solve
techinvest wrote:guru wrote:BTW before the Russian guys arrived I would not have said AF was so hot in the technical area ;OPPP Now .......Better for sure
Yes, Actionfront hired some Russians - but give them credit. They solved the Fujitsu MPG problem six months before any other data recovery company and they did it all in house, before they even knew anything about the Russian HD community. They only heard of PC3000 when competitors started fixing Fujitsu's as well. Then they sent two vice presidents to Russia and started dealing with them. Now most Russians with them are senior recovery managers, not in research.
Also the Signaltrace (which they have just sold to the United States government) was all developed by three researchers inside the company for almost ten years. Most DR companies do research when a job comes in the door - AF has "fulltime" 5 researchers for many years. Research not recovery.
Seagate picked them after looking at EVERY data recovery company in the world. They got contract over Ontrack, Ibas, Vogon, Drivesavers, etc. Same as Iomega and Quantum. AF beat Ontrack every time.
When the drive companies look at who is best - they muct see something we don't.
As for Ontrack going to Canada, 80% of Actionfront work is in United States - and now they are opening in Europe. http://forums.actionfront.com/showthread.php?t=605
I heard Ontrack tried to buy them five years ago - big mistake. Now Ontrack is second place.
P.S. - I think Seagte now owns part of Actionfront. That's why president retired.
July 6th, 2005, 9:36
guru wrote::o Thats BIG BULLSHIT AF never was the first comapny to solve MPG problems...........................................................
It was not a big problem to solve
guru please tell us who was or at least tell us when.
2002 ??
2003 ??
July 6th, 2005, 10:03
MPG drives do not have any difference (I mean the way of working with SA) from MPA drives. so I the date is 199x
July 7th, 2005, 4:16
Я соглашаюсь
True I Agree
LOL I guess I closer to 2000
Thank god for firmware updates
Dmitry_Postrigan wrote:MPG drives do not have any difference (I mean the way of working with SA) from MPA drives. so I the date is 199x
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