December 23rd, 2016, 23:19
December 24th, 2016, 0:32
Spildit wrote:Well, assuming that was is stated in this thread is correct - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=33822 - it WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE to recover the data when the SED flag is set to "unlocked" because the reading method of the encrypted data will change.
If so I think we can apply the Slow Fix and lock the drive by turning the SED flag on again. This should provide the fix to get the data decrypted by the original USB PCB.
IT MIGHT BE NECESSARY TO RETURN THE SED FLAG BACK TO "01" TO RECOVER THE DATA !!!
December 24th, 2016, 6:55
December 24th, 2016, 9:36
[/quote]Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:Spildit wrote:Well, assuming that was is stated in this thread is correct - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=33822 - it WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE to recover the data when the SED flag is set to "unlocked" because the reading method of the encrypted data will change.
You are right.Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:Hello ,
You know something theories have to be clear in dealing with drives [ Are You Listing Mr Shahi ? ] ,When the SED flag is removed how the hell will usb pcb hooked back get the data [ The SED has to be set back again ] .I wonder how they challenge someones experience when they themself are not clear of WDC hdd Working Theories .Your note that It can not read firmware etc when SED enable should remain in your pocket .With PC3K i can do the following [ Do not ask me how ]
No one challenged you regarding the SED Issue and Decrypted Data.
The game was If it's ROM ISSUE or Not.
And yes, in this case, The ROM WAS issue. I lost the drive ID again, and I was able to restore this one by writing backed up ROM, 47 mod and Editing the 0A mod in ROM.
In perspective of SED issue, yes, you are right. You know this one 6 months earlier then I do. There are several things you had to ask others who is experienced specifically, and I still remember the Hitachi HSA info I shared with you from my experience that worked for youYour Hitachi ROM Model Finding Theory Also Failed When We Two Were solving one case i had collectively remember that man. You three guys take a hike please .
December 24th, 2016, 10:20
December 24th, 2016, 13:45
Spildit wrote:Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:(...)
You three guys take a hike please .
December 24th, 2016, 13:50
Spildit wrote:Please disregard @Amarbir[CDR-Labs]
If you have PC-3000 you connect the PCB by TTL and aply the "slow fix" by TTL and that's it. It will patch module 02 without removing the SED flag. Then either use the original PCB and you will gain directly access to data or you can use SATA PCB and decrypt by PC-3000.
If you don't have PC-3000 just turn on that SED flag (apply my copy of 02 mentioned on my last post) and place USB PCB with original ROM back to the drive.
If you have to image again use the SED flag turned on and Slow Issue fix turned on.
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December 24th, 2016, 14:18
Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
00000000 52 4F 59 4C 04 00 1E 00 0B 02 01 00 33 A2 7C B4 ROYL........3¢|´
00000010 30 30 30 33 30 30 30 30 00 00 00 01 00 00 0A 1A 00030000........
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active flag ?Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
00000000 52 4F 59 4C 04 00 1E 00 0B 00 01 00 05 B6 23 AF ROYL.........¶#¯
00000010 30 30 30 33 30 30 30 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 1A 00030000........
^^
inactive flag ?December 24th, 2016, 14:45
fzabkar wrote:This is the "head map" section from the "real" 0A module:
- Code:
Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
00000000 20 06 00 08 08 FF 00 00 7C 51 7C 48 4A 4E 54 33 ....ÿ..|Q|HJNT3
00000010 53 42 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 SB............†
The 8-bit checksum for these bytes is 0x00.
This is the same section from the "uninitialised" 0A module:
- Code:
Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
00000000 20 06 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ...............
00000010 00 00 55 55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2B ..UU..........+
The 8-bit checksum is 0xFC.
Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
00000010 20 06 .
00000020 00 08 08 FF 00 00 7C 51 7C 48 4A 4E 54 33 53 42 ...ÿ..|Q|HJNT3SB
00000030 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 FB ............†û
checksum word ^^^^^Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
00000010 20 06 .
00000020 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00000030 55 55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2B FF UU..........+ÿ
checksum word ^^^^^December 24th, 2016, 16:15
Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:Spildit wrote:Please disregard @Amarbir[CDR-Labs]
If you have PC-3000 you connect the PCB by TTL and aply the "slow fix" by TTL and that's it. It will patch module 02 without removing the SED flag. Then either use the original PCB and you will gain directly access to data or you can use SATA PCB and decrypt by PC-3000.
If you don't have PC-3000 just turn on that SED flag (apply my copy of 02 mentioned on my last post) and place USB PCB with original ROM back to the drive.
If you have to image again use the SED flag turned on and Slow Issue fix turned on.
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Well,
No i do not apply Slow fix at all ,You kindly try and read my statements i DO NOT TELL THE TOOL TO APPLY SLOW FIX AT ALL .I can solve this slow fix with PC3000 using my own method [ Its a sequence i use to initialise the drive ] and it takes care of this .In My 1 year plus usage of the tool i might have applied slow fix in pc 3000 2 to 5 times only ,Do explain shahi how Drives with SED and NON SED Works ,Once he understands the theory its gonna be easy for him ,And remember MRT does all of this in a different manner then PC3K

December 24th, 2016, 16:41
December 24th, 2016, 20:08
December 24th, 2016, 21:55
Can you hint on how you patch ROM to gain access to raw SA on locked drives ? What module did you edit/patch ?
December 24th, 2016, 22:23
December 26th, 2016, 16:01
December 29th, 2016, 3:28
Spildit wrote:maximus wrote:After looking at the links, yes, I am modifying SA regions in a way to do this, but not same exact method (I only modified one byte in my test). Maybe it has been known for a long time, but it is new to me. And the other difference is that I am doing it myself without 3rd party tools. The fact that I had a successful test via USB was actually surprising even to me.
Not a surprise at all. If HDDSuperTool can bypass the USB bridge and send VSC to the drive and get a valid response out of it, like if you can apply the slow fix then you can do all the other operations as well. Meaning you can do to the drive all the stuff that PC-3000 and all the other firmware tools do (with exception of the hardware controll/handle of power) and you can do that by USB.
If you block SA regions you should be able to read entire tracks, get the modules out of it and patch them or use it as loader/dir/whatever...
December 30th, 2016, 16:15
Spildit wrote:Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:Spildit wrote:maximus wrote:After looking at the links, yes, I am modifying SA regions in a way to do this, but not same exact method (I only modified one byte in my test). Maybe it has been known for a long time, but it is new to me. And the other difference is that I am doing it myself without 3rd party tools. The fact that I had a successful test via USB was actually surprising even to me.
Not a surprise at all. If HDDSuperTool can bypass the USB bridge and send VSC to the drive and get a valid response out of it, like if you can apply the slow fix then you can do all the other operations as well. Meaning you can do to the drive all the stuff that PC-3000 and all the other firmware tools do (with exception of the hardware controll/handle of power) and you can do that by USB.
If you block SA regions you should be able to read entire tracks, get the modules out of it and patch them or use it as loader/dir/whatever...
True ,
Spildit its a known fact the PC3K can work with USB Drives Also Via USB For Firmware/ROM Work .But It Does Not Work In All Drives i Have Tested
I do have access to PC-3000 Express, latest version and i find it way better to use WDMarvel for WD rather then PC3K.
Only advantage of PC3K is the terminal connection to PCB that allows to work on USB only pcb without special adaptor/converting to sata or use HDDSuperTool.
December 30th, 2016, 16:20
Spildit wrote:Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote:Awesome ,
Give us a list of few special things you do with WDmarvel that you miss in UDMa/Express .
Try it out for free and see for yourself
https://wdmarvel.com/en/
December 31st, 2016, 2:30
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