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Re: What Recovery Hardware would you recommend ?

November 16th, 2008, 3:14

thatdellguy wrote:An interesting read:

In 1956 IBM invented the first computer disk storage system, the 305 RAMAC (Random Access Method of Accounting and Control). This system could store five MBytes. It had fifty, 24-inch diameter disks!


In 1980, Seagate Technology introduced the first hard disk drive for microcomputers, the ST506. It was a full height (twice as high as most current 5 1/4" drives) 5 1/4" drive, with a stepper motor, and held 5 Mbytes. My first hard disk drive was an ST506. I cannot remember exactly how much it cost, but it plus its enclosure, etc. was well over a thousand dollars. It took me three years to fill the drive. Also, in 1980 Phillips introduced the first optical laser drive. In the early 80's, the first 5 1/4" hard disks with voice coil actuators (more on this later) started shipping in volume, but stepper motor drives continued in production into the early 1990's. In 1981, Sony shipped the first 3 1/2" floppy drives.

http://www.duxcw.com/digest/guides/hd/hd2.htm


beat you to it my friend :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: What Recovery Hardware would you recommend ?

November 16th, 2008, 4:18

thatdellguy wrote:An interesting read:

In 1956 IBM invented the first computer disk storage system, the 305 RAMAC (Random Access Method of Accounting and Control). This system could store five MBytes. It had fifty, 24-inch diameter disks!


In 1980, Seagate Technology introduced the first hard disk drive for microcomputers, the ST506. It was a full height (twice as high as most current 5 1/4" drives) 5 1/4" drive, with a stepper motor, and held 5 Mbytes. My first hard disk drive was an ST506. I cannot remember exactly how much it cost, but it plus its enclosure, etc. was well over a thousand dollars. It took me three years to fill the drive. Also, in 1980 Phillips introduced the first optical laser drive. In the early 80's, the first 5 1/4" hard disks with voice coil actuators (more on this later) started shipping in volume, but stepper motor drives continued in production into the early 1990's. In 1981, Sony shipped the first 3 1/2" floppy drives.

http://www.duxcw.com/digest/guides/hd/hd2.htm
craig6928 wrote:
HDD_MASTER wrote:
shahij wrote:Seagate Drives came in the world more than 50 years ago[/b]


I appreciate everyones English is not great and we all come from different contries but 50 years ago!!!!

I think your information is a bit out of sync there. Seagate was founded as disc drive manufacturer in 1979, 29 years ago.

I don't know where the 50 has come from.


your wrong with your answer the company that founded the disk drive was

IBM had invented the first disk drive

then seagate
http://www.duxcw.com/digest/guides/hd/hd2.htm


I might mistake the in input about The year of HDD bornt in the world, unfortunately the input went for Seagate.

Anyway, already more than 50 years passed of invention of hard drive.

Re: What Recovery Hardware would you recommend ?

November 16th, 2008, 11:31

craig6928 wrote:deepspar is soo soo the ninja can do a lot better imaging


What an absurd lie. I've used both with my own two hands. The ninja just freezes if the drive is bad enough and that's that. I wouldn't even call it a data recovery tool.

Re: What Recovery Hardware would you recommend ?

November 16th, 2008, 14:01

craig6928 wrote:
HDD_MASTER wrote:
shahij wrote:Seagate Drives came in the world more than 50 years ago[/b]


I appreciate everyones English is not great and we all come from different contries but 50 years ago!!!!

I think your information is a bit out of sync there. Seagate was founded as disc drive manufacturer in 1979, 29 years ago.

I don't know where the 50 has come from.


your wrong with your answer the company that founded the disk drive was

IBM had invented the first disk drive

then seagate
http://www.duxcw.com/digest/guides/hd/hd2.htm


I never said Seagate invented the HDD. I merely stated that as a company Seagate became a HDD manufacturer in 1979.
I wish people would read posts properly before trying to correct someone. Think twice type once!!!

Re: What Recovery Hardware would you recommend ?

November 16th, 2008, 14:14

Technically, they were Shugart back in 1979. Then again, Alan Shugart was on the team that made the first hard drive. If I was Seagate in the 1980's, I might have been tempted to make some claim about making the first hard drive. Then again, nowadays Seagate is trading credibility for cold hard cash, and Alan is spinning in his grave...

Re: What Recovery Hardware would you recommend ?

November 16th, 2008, 16:52

Rchadwick, I still don't think it's Seagate the problem. Everyday I am more convinced that the problem is THE USER. Except for 7200.11 that - effectively - fail without "apparent" reason. Maybe flaws in the FW due to time-to-market pressure.

Re: What Recovery Hardware would you recommend ?

November 16th, 2008, 19:39

Well, while I was also referring to frozen spindles, they also have an interesting pattern (At least in my neck of the woods) of selling OEM drives in retail boxes. A 5 year warranty is great, *IF* you get it! Perhaps spindle issues are because of misuse, and it's likely impossible to know for sure if a customer lies about dropping their drive, but 'accidentally' putting OEM drives, with no warranty, in boxes stating 5 year warranties, and 'accidentally' doing this for years, is something else. To their credit, oddly enough I've come across some of these OEM drives that actually showed a warranty with Seagate. Then again, if you come across an OEM drive, do you bother checking? I can forgive technical incompetence over blatant thievery.

Re: What Recovery Hardware would you recommend ?

November 17th, 2008, 0:51

Jinx wrote:
craig6928 wrote:deepspar is soo soo the ninja can do a lot better imaging


What an absurd lie. I've used both with my own two hands. The ninja just freezes if the drive is bad enough and that's that. I wouldn't even call it a data recovery tool.


possible your right but end of the day any imager will do that.

the ninja is a good recovery tool

plus you might just work for this company who sell the deepspar
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