Data recovery and disk repair questions and discussions related to old-fashioned SATA, SAS, SCSI, IDE, MFM hard drives - any type of storage device that has moving parts
August 26th, 2008, 20:15
Very little doubt here. But wanted to be sure. Anyone done H/S on these? Tips? I have a cleanbench, no head "combs" but have never done more than a double head. There are 4 platters I think, 8 heads?
Just for fun I included the atola insight diagnosis, pretty right.
One thing I don't get is the two distinct startup sounds. Almost alternate (random) one to the other. AND that the drive was damaged by one of my employess who blew a 80Gb WD at the same time

Thats what makes me think .001% chance PCB.
Thanks
Audio here (board does not allow audio uploads?? for me at least ..)
http://meli.autobackup.cl/DR/
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August 26th, 2008, 21:05
Hello your Hard Disk presents the same sounds that I have shows only that what I have is 500GB, and presented this problem will probably fall after a head or shaft
August 26th, 2008, 21:18
I can hear two distinctive noises on the second audio track. It almost sounds like the heads are going over a rough area on the surface. Open the drive and inspected the platters.
August 27th, 2008, 9:47
the disk was (stupidly) used as a portable. quite a "roving" portable too. the case was one of those oh-so-intelligent stand on side type. who knows how many times it flopped over unparked.
are headswaps routinely possible, given good hand and tools, on these disks?
any alignment issues or is it put the top on and see?
thanks
its my disk and my data, so I feel ok to learn on this one.
August 28th, 2008, 3:51
mediaman wrote:the disk was (stupidly) used as a portable. quite a "roving" portable too. the case was one of those oh-so-intelligent stand on side type. who knows how many times it flopped over unparked.
are headswaps routinely possible, given good hand and tools, on these disks?
any alignment issues or is it put the top on and see?
thanks
its my disk and my data, so I feel ok to learn on this one.
Good luck to you - a head swap on a small WD drive is a nightmare. On a 750GB - it would bring me out in a sweat.
Duncan
August 28th, 2008, 9:26
Agree with duncan
August 28th, 2008, 10:09
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Kisumu City
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August 28th, 2008, 10:17
kanyoro wrote:hey don't waste a lot of time inquire from the East African Data Handlers, a company based in East and Central Africa that works with genuine people-clients, engineers and resources.
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Kisumu City
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August 28th, 2008, 10:45
you have made me all the more determined! (as I say, my data, and part of learning curve) I will report back honest results. Donor on way.
Has anybody here done a HS on one of these drives that can provide some constructive advice?
thanks
August 28th, 2008, 13:19
While I have not performed a head swap on these series WD drives; I personally own a 640AAKS and did quite a bit of research on them. They are the ~320GB per platter design; and they actually utilize a ramp; so as long as you load the new heads on to the ramp they should be fairly aligned; the ramp should somewhat eleviate the lid screw issue. As long as the heads remain parked on the ramp when you tighten then lid screw the drive should at least be in good enough shape to recoer data; but on the negative side these are high density drives, so in that respect; Godspeed to you.
August 29th, 2008, 14:20
thanks for the help Russ, you are right they have a ramp. I have found a PERFECT (yipee) donor and will play this weekend. has anyone ever thought of making a tool to unite the ramp to the HS and remove the two as one unit?

I'll have a bash.
August 29th, 2008, 17:48
Yes
August 29th, 2008, 21:14
Russwinters wrote:As long as the heads remain parked on the ramp when you tighten then lid screw the drive should at least be in good enough shape to recoer data; but on the negative side these are high density drives, so in that respect; Godspeed to you.
My problem with aligning WD drives is the extra play between the bearing and the axel. How would the ramp help in that regard?
September 1st, 2008, 2:06
The alignment has nothing to do with the ramp.
pepe
September 1st, 2008, 4:18
pepe wrote:The alignment has nothing to do with the ramp.
pepe
How are you with these disks pepe? Is the alignment a problem for you?
September 1st, 2008, 10:51
Hi,
it depends on the head count. 2 heads no problem.
pepe
September 1st, 2008, 11:02
pepe wrote:Hi,
it depends on the head count. 2 heads no problem.
pepe
That is pretty interesting actually. Didnt really think head count would have made much difference!
September 1st, 2008, 12:28
dumbies question, but if I'm swapping the heads and closing before powering up (so i'll have the HS top screw in) I should not have too many probs.
OR
Are you referring to the relative alignment between individual heads? This must differ HS to HS and get worse by and bad handling during the swap.. I can't imagine any way to solve this issue though.
September 1st, 2008, 17:35
mediaman wrote:dumbies question, but if I'm swapping the heads and closing before powering up (so i'll have the HS top screw in) I should not have too many probs.
OR
Are you referring to the relative alignment between individual heads? This must differ HS to HS and get worse by and bad handling during the swap.. I can't imagine any way to solve this issue though.
Wishful thinking, I'm afraid. Additional heads requires additional platters, which increases vertical spacing, which magnifies small alignment problems into larger ones.
September 2nd, 2008, 22:56
FAILURE!
well, to be honest, it did not work out
after a text book head swap (yes all 8 of them) nothing. The H swap went very smoothly, probably the best and cleanest I've done. ESD precautions all way through, cleanbench perfect.
But, disk does same. Maybe one of the lower platters has some damage. Maybe still PCB.
Any ideas. Please
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