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 Post subject: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 14th, 2008, 0:12 
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Hi all Guru's :)
I have a problem with a Toshiba HDD.
It was working fine until I bought a new external usb/eSata enclosure, which I think has had to be faulty since the Toshiba hdd didn't even power/spin up in it.
I put the Toshiba drive back in it's original USB enclosure, where 10min before it was working just fine...but now: nothing...dead.
Seems no power arrives to the disk.
So my little action to try the new enclosure has been devastating for the poor toshiba drive... :cry:

Now...after quite some days of surfing on forums and ebay listings I am not quite sure about the exact codes I have to match trying to find a compatible donor for a PCB swap.
(i think also the CPU will have to be put on the donor PCB, right?)

The numbers on my drive are (see also attached photos):
MDL: MK2035GSS
HDD2A30 C ZK01 T
FW: 020 A0/DK022A
made in Philippines
PCB: 020 B0
(white label on the component side of the PCB)

Now on ebay I have found some possible donors, but all without a 100% match of all numbers.

#1.
MK2035GSS
HDD2A30 Q ZK01 T
FW: 020 A0/DK021B
made in Philippines
PCB: unknown

#2.
MK2035GSS
HDD2A30 B ZK01 T
FW: unknown (waiting for answer from seller)
made in Philippines
PCB: unknown

#3.
MK2035GSS
HDD2A30 C ZK01 S
FW: 020 A0/DK022A
made in CHINA
PCB: unknown

So I would like some advise on finding the most compatible drive for a PCB swap...
I've read that some people just match the MLD# (MK2035GSS) and the productions site (ZK01 T), so drive #1 and #2 would both do the job.
Someone else claims to match PCB number (020 B0) and FW (020 A0/DK022A), so (if PCB numbers matches) drive #3 would be my choice...

Any suggestions?

Thanks to all in advance :)
Olaita.


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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 14th, 2008, 0:19 
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You need to match PCB PN (which is FKN6GA on your PCB)
After that you will need to swap CPU (It's MicroBGA and it's not easy)

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 14th, 2008, 0:42 
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Ok. Thanks!

So all the other numbers are not important anymore, as long as I find a PCB with PN# FKN6GA?

I know the difficulty of CPU swap...
I won't do this myself, I'll look for an expert used to do BGA soldering.


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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 14th, 2008, 13:44 
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olaita wrote:
So all the other numbers are not important anymore, as long as I find a PCB with PN# FKN6GA?

If you are going to replace CPU the other numbers won't matter

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 14th, 2008, 16:41 
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doomer is right, transferring the CPU is difficult, and without transferring this then adaptive data on donor PCB will likely be different.

If data is important to you, consult a professional. Could be easily repaired with the right tools, maybe the fuse is dead. Are you sure no power is going through the PCB? Maybe it is powering but heads are parked incorrectly on platters causing resistance. this could potentially be dangerous for your data.

Remember, any work you attempt yourself could potentially render the data inaccessible, even to a pro.


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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 14th, 2008, 17:00 
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just check the FUSE ... position F1 in think ;o) Probably more.....

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 22nd, 2008, 6:10 
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Hi all,

sorry for my absence this week, sorry for not giving you any reply/feedback.
I've been out of town for work...

First of all, thanks to you for your answers.

I am waiting for disk #1 and #2 to be delivered.
Then I'll try the pcb swap.

But I understand first step is to check fuse (F1) on the PCB, right?
Then if PCB number match I can proceed with the PCP swap (having the CPU swapped also by a pro technician capable of doing BGA jobs).

What happens if I swap PCB without also swapping the CPU?

And if i find an other hdd where all number match (model, firmware, country of production, pcb) any chance PCB swap will work without CPU being swapped?

Thanks again in advance for all the help and advice you can give me!
Olaita


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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 22nd, 2008, 10:23 
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olaita wrote:
What happens if I swap PCB without also swapping the CPU?

Drive will not work and it will probably click
olaita wrote:
And if i find an other hdd where all number match (model, firmware, country of production, pcb) any chance PCB swap will work without CPU being swapped?

Chances close to zero

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 22nd, 2008, 10:48 
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Ok, thanks :)

just to know the odds and don't waste time doing test that won't work ;-)

start to look for an experienced BGA soldeer guy and that'll do the job (I hope)...

Keep you all updated as soon as I have news

Thanks

Olaita


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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 22nd, 2008, 11:29 
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Oh by the way... you can either destroy the BGA chip during the process, but this is the risk :D


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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 22nd, 2008, 14:47 
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BlackST wrote:
Oh by the way... you can either destroy the BGA chip during the process, but this is the risk :D


sorry, destroy the BGA doing what?


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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 22nd, 2008, 16:30 
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desoldering, reballing and resoldering.


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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 22nd, 2008, 17:30 
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O that's just nice to hear...
so I have to cross my fingers giving the pcb to an experienced BGA soldeer guy...
hmm...


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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: December 22nd, 2008, 20:00 
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I think BlackST was refering if YOU did it .. If the correct equipment is used and the processor isnt already blown, then there should be no problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
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Doomer wrote:
You need to match PCB PN (which is FKN6GA on your PCB)
After that you will need to swap CPU (It's MicroBGA and it's not easy)


Hello colleagues. Why change the processor? What will it affect? After all, all the firmware lies in the rom. Or do I not know something?


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mik17117 wrote:
Doomer wrote:
You need to match PCB PN (which is FKN6GA on your PCB)
After that you will need to swap CPU (It's MicroBGA and it's not easy)


Hello colleagues. Why change the processor? What will it affect? After all, all the firmware lies in the rom. Or do I not know something?

You're 14 years too late ... and the "ROM" is inside the MCU.

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
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Quote:
You're 14 years too late ... and


14 years ago I couldn't come here because of my age. :D

Quote:
the "ROM" is inside the MCU.


I know that.

But the pc3000 hardware does not know how to write ROM. It can only read it. I thought that the ROM is not fully readable.
In addition, the pc3000 does not allow you to write the edited CP. Or am I doing something wrong


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checksum must be corrected to write cp.

And it is possible to write rom with any terminal program, at least on those with external serial flash.
I haven't really checked these old bro's coz they are not coming anymore.

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Almost two decades later, I'm still wondering why ace never implemented rom writing in pc3k...

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 Post subject: Re: Toshiba MK2035GSS: need indications for PCB match
PostPosted: September 4th, 2022, 22:53 
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mik17117 wrote:
In addition, the pc3000 does not allow you to write the edited CP. Or am I doing something wrong

http://users.on.net/~fzabkar/FreeBasic_W32/Utils/checksum.bas
http://users.on.net/~fzabkar/FreeBasic_W32/Utils/checksum.exe

Calculate the XOR8 checksum.

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