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macman
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 10:13 
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Recoveries on these drive with motor seizure. I have recovered from these before. They are easy as long as you know what you are doing. Not for the average computer user.
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Doomer
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 10:16 
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HDD Spaz wrote:
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for this model it very hard to make DR. What I'm trying to say - if it's seized motor - your data is gone


Are you saying you can't recover from this fault? Or are you saying he can't recover from this fault? Anyway I made a full recovery on on this exact same model with a seized motor a few weeks ago. 8)

Good for you, we have houndreds of them :)
Statistics shows they not as easy as before

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HDD Spaz
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 10:23 
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Your post indicated that you could not recover them. I thought that wasn't correct given you people have inside info :lol: . I agree, they are more difficult than the 7200.8,9,10's. The 7200.11 500 GB only has two platters so the data density must make things a little more difficult.
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Doomer
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 12:21 
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HDD Spaz wrote:
Your post indicated that you could not recover them.

It's hard but possible. Unfortunately not on all of them

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HDD Spaz
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 12:31 
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Doomer wrote:
HDD Spaz wrote:
Your post indicated that you could not recover them.

It's hard but possible. Unfortunately not on all of them



Thats makes me feel good. Maybe I am a guru afterall 8)

Why are these more difficult? Is head alignment an issue with these?
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hddguy
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 12:48 
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I am currently recovering a platterswap on a 500GB 7200.11. Only problem is drive has many damaged sectors, and a XFS filesysem and client needs Virtual MAchine VMDK files, around 300GB, so the fat lady aint quite singing yet...... :(
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Doomer
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 12:53 
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HDD Spaz wrote:
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Why are these more difficult? Is head alignment an issue with these?

They changed SA architecture
It is more like SCSI drives now. If you recovered Seagate SCSI drives before you would know what I mean :)

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HDD Spaz
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 12:55 
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The ones I did done had quite a few bads, i was lucky, I could use data compass to extract what I needed. I take it you are cloning it, what are you using? Might be a good idea to keep some parts on standby. Fingers crossed they won't be needed.
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Doomer
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 12:58 
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hddguy wrote:
I am currently recovering a platterswap on a 500GB 7200.11. Only problem is drive has many damaged sectors, and a XFS filesysem and client needs Virtual MAchine VMDK files, around 300GB, so the fat lady aint quite singing yet...... :(

sometimes VM files stored uncompressed and they basically drive images and you still can recover them logically after

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hddguy
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 12:59 
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Im pretty sure UFS explorer supports these VMDK files....
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bestvex
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 13:00 
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As I don't care to much about the drive or the data on it I went and opened it.
And no surprise, I found the motor seized, but it's completely frozen!
I kept the disks, just in case I'll ever need to recover something...
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HDD Spaz
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 13:04 
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you kept the disks? Did you dispose of the rest of the hard drive? Depending on how you answer this question it will have a direct result of the amount of people laughing at you.
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N.C.
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 13:06 
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hddguy wrote:
I am currently recovering a platterswap on a 500GB 7200.11. Only problem is drive has many damaged sectors, and a XFS filesysem and client needs Virtual MAchine VMDK files, around 300GB, so the fat lady aint quite singing yet...... :(


XFS is a good recoverable fs. ;)
You should use sparse files for saving xfs_repair changes if you unsure about the result.
This is not a problem, i think...

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bestvex
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 13:11 
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I actually disposed the standard answer I have for standard smart arses... not wort it
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hddguy
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
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bestvex wrote:
I actually disposed the standard answer I have for standard smart arses... not wort it


Now I bet everyone is wondering what that answer is!! :D
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hddguy
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 13:14 
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Doomer wrote:
It is more like SCSI drives now. If you recovered Seagate SCSI drives before you would know what I mean :)


Are you referring to a translator SCSI issue where capacity is 0? Much the same type of fault as the 7200.11 capacity 0 issue?
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HDD Spaz
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
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Did you remove the platters from the hard drive? Not being a smart arse, what you said indicated you had and you plan to keep them just in case you want the data. If you have done this.....

1. It was Stupid.
2. Data is Gone For Good.

Why did you open it? You can't RMA it now. That again was stupid if the data is worthless.
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Doomer
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PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 13:35 
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hddguy wrote:
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It is more like SCSI drives now. If you recovered Seagate SCSI drives before you would know what I mean :)


Are you referring to a translator SCSI issue where capacity is 0? Much the same type of fault as the 7200.11 capacity 0 issue?

I'm not reffering only to this but BTW the problem is exactly the same
I'm talking more of internal issues (heads, platters transplants)

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 13:44 
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Doomer wrote:
hddguy wrote:
Doomer wrote:
It is more like SCSI drives now. If you recovered Seagate SCSI drives before you would know what I mean :)


Are you referring to a translator SCSI issue where capacity is 0? Much the same type of fault as the 7200.11 capacity 0 issue?

I'm not reffering only to this but BTW the problem is exactly the same
I'm talking more of internal issues (heads, platters transplants)


Is it some software to repair this 0 LBA for 30 $ or something? like hdd unlock, one time?

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HDD Spaz
 Post subject: Re: Seagate 7200.11
PostPosted: January 14th, 2009, 13:52 
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gsustek wrote:
Doomer wrote:
hddguy wrote:
Doomer wrote:
It is more like SCSI drives now. If you recovered Seagate SCSI drives before you would know what I mean :)


Are you referring to a translator SCSI issue where capacity is 0? Much the same type of fault as the 7200.11 capacity 0 issue?

I'm not reffering only to this but BTW the problem is exactly the same
I'm talking more of internal issues (heads, platters transplants)


Is it some software to repair this 0 LBA for 30 $ or something? like hdd unlock, one time?



In a word...No.
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