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How would you compare MHDD to other Freeware with the same functionality?
Poll ended at July 8th, 2008, 5:23
MHDD is simply the best freeware of this category! 50%  50%  [ 2 ]
With MHDD people have saved money and time! 25%  25%  [ 1 ]
MHDD can be compared to very expensive programs! 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Even harddrive manufacturers recommend this software! 25%  25%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 4
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 Post subject: Maxtor Diamondmax 10 300Gb
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 5:23 
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My hardisk is locked with an ATA-password, MHDD says so as well.
If the application doesnt accept my password, how can I unlock the drive in a way that no password is required resulting in loss of all data, but disc would be usable again? Which are the exact commands for doing this?

Lovely software by the way, keep it going:-)


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor Diamondmax 10 300Gb
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 5:48 
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holocraft wrote:
My hardisk is locked with an ATA-password, MHDD says so as well.
If the application doesnt accept my password, how can I unlock the drive in a way that no password is required resulting in loss of all data, but disc would be usable again? Which are the exact commands for doing this?



If you know "Master password" for you drive, you can unlock drive with master password (security level high) or clear drive with removing password (security level maximum)

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 Post subject: Maxtor support say: there is no Master password
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 5:58 
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Thanx for the fast reply:-)

Maxtor support said there is no Master Password for that drive.
Originally this drive was an external hardrive which came with a security software to unlock/lock the drive. So that password I know which it is, but MHDD says it's not correct.
I can't use the "unlocking software" that came with the drive because the controller in the cabin is "down".

What you posted are the commands?


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 Post subject: How to erase disk when MHDD doesnt want to accept password
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 6:02 
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MHDD says the password is incorrect, so my alternative is to erase password + all data on the disk. To do exactly what I mentioned which is the right command?

Thanx on forehand:-)


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 Post subject: Since the controller is down...
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 6:03 
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Since the controller is down I took out the drive from the cabin, and put it into a local PC.


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor support say: there is no Master password
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 7:03 
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holocraft wrote:
Maxtor support said there is no Master Password for that drive.

Certainly, manufacturers never give such password to end users. And i don't sure what "support" know anything about it :wink: :wink: :wink:

If you read ATA standart - you see what "Master password" _must_ be implemented...

holocraft wrote:
Originally this drive was an external hardrive which came with a security software to unlock/lock the drive. So that password I know which it is, but MHDD says it's not correct.
I can't use the "unlocking software" that came with the drive because the controller in the cabin is "down".

Well, good security software must change "Master Password", if it made so - you can try ask security software manufacturer.

If it not answer - no luck :cry:

holocraft wrote:
What you posted are the commands?

This is what can be made if you know "master password"...

Certainly there are methods of removal of the password with which professional repairmen can unlock drive without "master password", but this is our business (don't expect free help) and require knowledge...

ps Try find the same external enclosure (model must be the same), and try remove password with you known "user password" ( you can't unlock drive with you password directly in mhdd because usually such box change typed passwords )

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 Post subject: Well thanx, but...
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 7:20 
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Thank you for the long/proffesional reply:-)

I understand what you mean and I agree. But I heard it is no problem in deleting whatever password in a way that it completely erases the password + all data on the disk. So I loose all data, but disk is unlocked and can be formatted with Windows.

It is not possible to purchase a new cabin, i asked.

I talked with the manufacturer of the software, no useful reply.

They simply say: only way now is use MHDD or similar software and unlock with the same password I made. I did that MHDD doesnt accept it, so I also think that the controller changes/modifies the password.

Only alternative left is erasing lock password + data, which I heard non-proffesionals can do easily with for example MHDD + the right command.

Am I right?


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 Post subject: Well I contacted the manufacturer
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 7:23 
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I sent an email to the manufacturer, so those who replied must have been the ones who know? Well doesnt matter, I only want to be able to use the disk again even if I loose all data.

The manufacturer would give you masterpassword if I can prove I bought the disk, maybe? Well I'm sure you have more much more experience than me at this point.


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 Post subject: My conclusion: Hmm, making it as simple as possible
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 7:29 
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Does it mean that the erasing password/data only works after the master password is typed.

Does the unlocking only include userpassword?
I mean for beeing able to access the disk (loose all data) again, I have to remove masterpassword as well as userpassword? Or only removing WHICH of these passwords is enough to unlock the drive in a way that Windows can access/comunicate with it again?


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 Post subject: If wanting to save all data...
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 7:31 
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If I want to save all data on disk then I need proffessional/expensive help which isnt even guaranteed? I prefer erasing :wink:


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 Post subject: Ok, one step at the time
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 7:35 
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I must really sa that your answers slowly makes me understand how this whole thing works, even though I havnt fixed it, I learnt a couple of things today as well :wink: .

Thank you again, I really appreciate every word from any proffessional! :idea:


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 Post subject: What would be really practical!
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 7:38 
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A utility that tells me if it is userpassword or masterpassword that actually is locking the drive at this moment.

MHDD shows this? Or any other freeware?


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 Post subject: Another application says: maximum security
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 7:41 
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Another application I tried instead of MHDD says the following about the drive: maximum security.

Is it possible that the drive is locked by userpassword and masterpassword at the same time?


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 Post subject: Re: Another application says: maximum security
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 8:09 
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holocraft wrote:
Another application I tried instead of MHDD says the following about the drive: maximum security.

Is it possible that the drive is locked by userpassword and masterpassword at the same time?


1. drive can't be locked with master password, drive always locked with user password.

2. you can only change master password(for unlocked drive), or break drive locking with it

3. if security high you can just unlock drive with master password with saved data, if security maximum (your case) you can clear all data & password, but need KNOW master password for this.

If you have master password, you can run mhdd fast erase(or quick erase? see mhdd docs for detail, about erase asking about password )



If you can get answer from cabin manufacturer, ask what they made with you user password, before send it to the drive. All password has 32 bytes length, if you type 4 bytes as password (for example) software must add some bytes to the end of string (usually space or zero ) to make it 32 bytes long, if password not cripted mhdd can add wrong char to the tail of it...

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 Post subject: Re: What would be really practical!
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 8:13 
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holocraft wrote:
A utility that tells me if it is userpassword or masterpassword that actually is locking the drive at this moment.

MHDD shows this? Or any other freeware?


Util what can show current password must use engineering backdoor, so i don't think you can see this in freeware...

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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor Diamondmax 10 300Gb
PostPosted: October 13th, 2005, 9:57 
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holocraft wrote:
My hardisk is locked with an ATA-password, MHDD says so as well.
If the application doesnt accept my password, how can I unlock the drive in a way that no password is required resulting in loss of all data, but disc would be usable again? Which are the exact commands for doing this?

Lovely software by the way, keep it going:-)


This guys claim that their software can remove ATA password from Maxtor drive.
http://a-ff.com/products/rrs/drives/


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