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 Post subject: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 21st, 2010, 16:19 
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HDD fell down from table to the floor. It was switched-off so I hoped that it survive.

After first start, it booted up, but made some noise and stopped work fastly.
After second start, it didn't boot up and still crepitates.

Is there some chance to recover data or repair?
Thank you very much for any useful advice.

Here is video:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcnwpa ... -fall_tech


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 21st, 2010, 16:34 
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It was not a good idea to power it again after falling. Anyway the drive should be analysed with proper equipment to make a diagnose.
It's ABSOLUTELY NOT a "do it yourself" case - there are pros from this forum near your area.


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 21st, 2010, 21:59 
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BlackST wrote:
It was not a good idea to power it again after falling. Anyway the drive should be analysed with proper equipment to make a diagnose.
It's ABSOLUTELY NOT a "do it yourself" case - there are pros from this forum near your area.


Welcome back!

BTW, how did you make out with your first laptop drive?

Did you have a go yourself, or did you send it to a pro? :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 22nd, 2010, 7:24 
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Never had such problems - simply I don't own a laptop (guess why ?) ... when HDD problems came at the 1st time I already knew how to handle them. Lucky.


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 22nd, 2010, 7:30 
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sounds like you got headstack damaged on that drive :(
your might had damaged it as you turned it on


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 22nd, 2010, 8:25 
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but it doesn't make sound if I poke it.


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 22nd, 2010, 9:35 
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POKE what and how ?!? OMG....


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 22nd, 2010, 11:20 
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I demonstrated it in the video. HDD is quiet during twisting (no matter of clockwise or anticlockwise).


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 22nd, 2010, 18:32 
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dayslypper wrote:
I demonstrated it in the video. HDD is quiet during twisting (no matter of clockwise or anticlockwise).


If you "poke" it, the RPM changes, and the drive stops the MHA moving until re-spin.

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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 22nd, 2010, 21:52 
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Location: In your hard drive.
Poking; to prod or push, esp. with something narrow or pointed, as a finger, elbow, stick, ect. Often used by an end user with little to no experience to perform hard drive recovery which in turn causes more damage then if they just left it alone. Example: I poked my hard drive in an attempt to perform professional data recovery but it failed. Now the DR company wants ten times the money because I poked it.

Todays word was brought to you by thatdellguy, may you have a poking day. :yayaya:

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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 23rd, 2010, 6:25 
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AAAAAHHHH.... Now I get why there's a game called POKER... sometimes (very few) you win, many times you LOOSE. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 23rd, 2010, 9:33 
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You mean like this?

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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 23rd, 2010, 9:49 
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dayslypper wrote:
HDD fell down from table to the floor. It was switched-off so I hoped that it survive.

After first start, it booted up, but made some noise and stopped work fastly.
After second start, it didn't boot up and still crepitates.

Is there some chance to recover data or repair?
Thank you very much for any useful advice.

Here is video:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcnwpa ... -fall_tech


Did ur HDD always sound this way on the spinup? It sounds like the platters are wobbly.... Anycase , there might still be a chance to recover the data. The scrathing sound is bad. Meens heads got into physical contact with the platter and are scraping them. Effectively ur data becomes a dust on the filter m8... Heads are damaged most likely and if i am right about the wobly platters - platters have to be moved to a donor case. Ull need the help of a data recovery shop with this , and not any shop... Gl m8.


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 23rd, 2010, 22:33 
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BlackST wrote:
Never had such problems - simply I don't own a laptop (guess why ?)


Is that a trade secret, too?

BlackST wrote:
... when HDD problems came at the 1st time I already knew how to handle them. Lucky.


Well, then this post must be from a different BlackST:
seagate-momentus-not-spinning-t8482.html


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 24th, 2010, 5:04 
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Precise help in that case was needed : matter of hours. Unfortunately you weren't in the forum, so you could give me very helpful advice just in case Seagate started putting TVSs in the bearing too...

In fact someone (MANDR) said...

Black ST asking for help with stiction case? This is something we dont see anymore

:mrgreen:

P.S. was not only stiction.


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 24th, 2010, 7:42 
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BlackST wrote:
Precise help in that case was needed : matter of hours. Unfortunately you weren't in the forum, so you could give me very helpful advice just in case Seagate started putting TVSs in the bearing too...

You think much too highly of yourself.

I was doing chip level repair on hard disc drives when many of your colleagues were still in nappies/diapers. I used to repair million dollar mainframes to chip level, on-site, with only the barest of tools (the ones I could carry onto an airplane). The 3-chip boards that you ex-software people handle are toys compared to the 300-chip, 15" x 15", multilayer boards that real technicians used to repair in my day.

BTW, a colleague, who used to service consumer equipment, used to refer to TVS diodes as d*ckhead diodes.

BlackST wrote:
In fact someone (MANDR) said...

Black ST asking for help with stiction case? This is something we dont see anymore

:mrgreen:


ROTFLMAO.

MANDR was laughing at you, not complimenting you. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 24th, 2010, 8:36 
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fzabkar wrote:

BlackST wrote:
In fact someone (MANDR) said...

Black ST asking for help with stiction case? This is something we dont see anymore

:mrgreen:


ROTFLMAO.

MANDR was laughing at you, not complimenting you. :mrgreen:


This was not me 'laughing', simply observing facts. There was a time when even the best of us did not have certain facts, or information. Introduce research, time, money, dedication and hard work and this allows us to develop the knowledge.

But i am sure you could teach us all a thing or two, you obviously have such extensive knowledge..... :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 24th, 2010, 9:04 
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This video is a perfect example of what not to do after you drop your hard drive. If you do take it to a professional lab, please get them to take a few pictures of the internals and post them with the lab comments in this thread. I think it would be helpful for all the readers to see what is happening inside the drive.

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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 24th, 2010, 10:37 
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How cute BlackST, you have a secret admirer

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 Post subject: Re: HDD crepitates after free fall (VIDEO)
PostPosted: March 24th, 2010, 10:57 
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fzabkar wrote:

Well, then this post must be from a different BlackST:
seagate-momentus-not-spinning-t8482.html


Thats twice i know of now that you have rummaged through archived topics trying to find some way to unsuccessfully attempt to criticise or prove worthless points.

Maybe when I have more time than sense, like you obviously do, I will find the time to waste searching though your old posts :lol:

Dont you have a job in the real world you should be doing???


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