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 Post subject: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 4:13 
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Hi all,

I have this hard drive

http://img194.imageshack.us/i/maxtor1.jpg/

http://img388.imageshack.us/i/maxtor2.jpg/

http://img151.imageshack.us/i/maxtor3.jpg/

Which detacted as LBA 0 (very similar to the problem with 7200.11 LBA 0).
I've set up the nokia cable for seagate and already mannaged to fix hard drive with 7200.11 LBA 0 problem.

How can I fix that hard drive?
I attached a picture which shows the pins of the hard drive.
Where should I connect the RX and TX and GND of the CA-42 cable in order to fix the hard drive?


Is there other way to fix that hard drive besides with the CA-42 cable?

Many Thanks!!


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 4:16 
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Is also detected as 'ROMULUS' instead of correct model number? This is completely different type of hard disk, the problem is different, the solution is difficult, and there is no way to repair with a cable.

You need professional tools. If you dont have, then find someone who does.


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 4:24 
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I would search for a TVS :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 4:28 
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hddguy wrote:
Is also detected as 'ROMULUS' instead of correct model number? This is completely different type of hard disk, the problem is different, the solution is difficult, and there is no way to repair with a cable.

You need professional tools. If you dont have, then find someone who does.


What tools do I need for that hard drive?


BlackST wrote:
I would search for a TVS :mrgreen:


I tried to look but nothing seem burnt (or I didn't understand the joke? :wink: )


Any usefull suggestions?


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 4:43 
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CrazyDoctor wrote:
I tried to look but nothing seem burnt (or I didn't understand the joke? :wink: )


La seconda che hai detto (the second you said).

Useful suggestion : tell your customer/friend that you can't do anything.
Non-useful suggestion as it is most probably non-applicable : get a HW tool to deal with firmware, then document yourself how Romulus family work, then analyze. If it's a firmware problem, fix it. If it is a mechanical problem, fix it. If both, fix both. Then you get data.


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 4:46 
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BlackST wrote:
CrazyDoctor wrote:
I tried to look but nothing seem burnt (or I didn't understand the joke? :wink: )


La seconda che hai detto (the second you said).

Useful suggestion : tell your customer/friend that you can't do anything.
Non-useful suggestion as it is most probably non-applicable : get a HW tool to deal with firmware, then document yourself how Romulus family work, then analyze. If it's a firmware problem, fix it. If it is a mechanical problem, fix it. If both, fix both. Then you get data.



What tools can deal with firmware problems?
What are the cost of those tools?


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 4:55 
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UDMA costs several thousand $ . Other tools are cheaper. One thing in common : don't expect any help using them. You should know how stuff work BEFORE.


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 5:01 
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It seems whatever hard drives you get in, you post a question here. Maybe we should just send you our money in the post because its obvious you don't want to work for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 5:14 
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CrazyDoctor wrote:
Where should I connect the RX and TX and GND of the CA-42 cable in order to fix the hard drive?


I think you need many many more years of training...

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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 5:24 
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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 10:00 
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Thank you guys,
You really know how to take the wind out my sails.


HDD Spaz you just don't know how long time I spent on this hard drive searching on the internet to find something that I can do for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 10:03 
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Honestly, if you try to do his best for his friends, it's up to you how you use your time.
But if you run a business or do it for any reason except personal leisure, do one thing : outsource.


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 10:31 
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CrazyDoctor wrote:
HDD Spaz you just don't know how long time I spent on this hard drive searching on the internet to find something that I can do for it.


More often than not, the answers can not be found on the internet. It is called research, and not surfing, for a reason...


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 10:40 
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CrazyDoctor wrote:
Thank you guys,
You really know how to take the wind out my sails.


HDD Spaz you just don't know how long time I spent on this hard drive searching on the internet to find something that I can do for it.


Here you go.. www.acelaboratory.com

It comes with a nice thick manual so you wont have to waste time surfing. Once you have this come back and ask some more questions.


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 10:50 
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If you see, 99% of forum posts are done by copy & paste from other source. So bullshit runs. Proprietary or 1st-hand info is not common, thank God some sources are not addressable by search engines.

Some time ago I was in need for help about deploying a VPN in certain particular conditions (particular ISP, particular equipment, particular settings etc. etc.) , all the attempts did not work (and I have "some" years of experience....) . After unfruitful search on the internet, I decided to grab the bull by the horns, and ask in some places...
Result : loads of copy & paste from other sources, useful like a tit on a bull (example : "YOU NEED A STATIC IP TO DO THIS" , "YOU CAN USE FREE SOFTWARE ON THE PCs" (while I clearly stated that it was NOT possible to use anything on PC due to security reasons) and a lot of advice like teaching a stallion how to make yearlings just in case he didn't know how to....
A total waste of time. Symptomatic. The 100% of people knew less than me or they simply didn't want to give out the solution , assuming they had it.
It was like a blind leading the blind.
After few days, I had to open a ticket at the equipment manufacturer, ask DIRECTLY the ISP (speaking of tech people who knew exactly where they were taht day) and the problem was solved, and it wasn't so easy. They helped me because I knew exactly what to do in any case, it was a tech-to-tech speech.
I was asked later to post the solution to help "the community" where I asked... No comment. Of course I didn't.


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 12th, 2010, 11:26 
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OK, so you can fix Seagate 7200.11 drives with your terminal connector that you made from instructions on the Web.. the CA-42 terminal adapter bodge up gives this away. Now you think you are a data recovery engineer but you are realizing that you are not. The 7200.11 problem was one of the easiest problems to fix ever in the history of data recovery unlike many other drives. So what you have to do is research yourself how to fix these things.. Buy old drives and break them and repair them, poke and peek a bit ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
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Correction : you can fix the two common bugs on .11 IF it is the problem.
I have seen a lot of drive in FUBAR state where random remedies found on the net (serves them right !) were applied thinking it was the cause and without proper diagnose...


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 13th, 2010, 4:53 
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CrazyDoctor wrote:
Thank you guys,
You really know how to take the wind out my sails.


HDD Spaz you just don't know how long time I spent on this hard drive searching on the internet to find something that I can do for it.


Apparently , you are a Russian american. If so, try Russian sites and you can find the answer there.
Romulus is a good hint.


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 13th, 2010, 5:23 
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BlackST wrote:
I was asked later to post the solution to help "the community" where I asked... No comment. Of course I didn't.

Of course not. We know not to expect anything like that from you.


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 Post subject: Re: Maxtor - LBA 0
PostPosted: April 13th, 2010, 9:15 
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just want to add that the TX/RX pins on Romulus do work and can be used for special purposes. But you need to know how :O) And I have no idea...........................

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