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 Post subject: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 24th, 2010, 12:15 
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This is a DeathStar 250GB that fell off a table.
The drive can not access data every time, meaning some times it can show up in the bios, and other times it won't.
Data can be accessed but it takes the drive a very slow copying speed (about 250K/s) to copy things.

What can be the reason?
what had gone wrong in it? assuming that it can access data and has not damaged it platters?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 24th, 2010, 12:16 
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Heads are damaged. Stop working on this disk!


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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 24th, 2010, 12:29 
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Head damage.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 24th, 2010, 13:30 
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HDD Spaz wrote:
Heads are damaged. Stop working on this disk!


First thanks for your reply,
this disk is not going to recover, just for study.
and I would like to know what is wrong with this one.
So you are saying the heads need to be replaced in order to read the data from it?

If so, how come it can read the data from the platters?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 24th, 2010, 13:32 
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In addition, I would like to say that when I was trying to loose or tighten the 3 bolts of the heads arm and the other
two magnets, the drive was reading better for a short time.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 24th, 2010, 13:38 
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I'm saying heads are damaged. you might not need to change them but its probably safer for the surfaces. You can't do anything without expensive hardware/software.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 24th, 2010, 14:46 
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DAMAGED = not FUBAR.

The more you work with the drive in this condition, the quicker the drive will enter the "click... click....click...." state.
Head changing on Hitachi is a PITA.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 24th, 2010, 14:53 
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LoneWolf wrote:
HDD Spaz wrote:
Heads are damaged. Stop working on this disk!


First thanks for your reply,
this disk is not going to recover, just for study.
and I would like to know what is wrong with this one.
So you are saying the heads need to be replaced in order to read the data from it?

If so, how come it can read the data from the platters?


because the headstack have more then 4 heads on the platters
so it can read some information.

it depends on what the drive is as there can be more then 4 heads in the hard drive

if the unit got 4 heads one is failing you can remap the headstack and use the other 3 heads
and recovery the data.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 24th, 2010, 15:11 
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craig6928 wrote:
LoneWolf wrote:
HDD Spaz wrote:
Heads are damaged. Stop working on this disk!


First thanks for your reply,
this disk is not going to recover, just for study.
and I would like to know what is wrong with this one.
So you are saying the heads need to be replaced in order to read the data from it?

If so, how come it can read the data from the platters?


because the headstack have more then 4 heads on the platters
so it can read some information.

it depends on what the drive is as there can be more then 4 heads in the hard drive

if the unit got 4 heads one is failing you can remap the headstack and use the other 3 heads
and recovery the data.


and for remapping the headstack I need some tool like pc3000 right?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
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BlackST wrote:
DAMAGED = not FUBAR.

The more you work with the drive in this condition, the quicker the drive will enter the "click... click....click...." state.
Head changing on Hitachi is a PITA.


PITA = ??

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
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The fact that it can sometimes read the SA and show up in the BIOS and the fact that it reads user area very slowly points everything towards slow death heads. However sometimes another thing can cause what you see, access the PES/() signal from the drive and then you will be able to check what maybe wrong

I can't help with any PES signal SW




LoneWolf wrote:
HDD Spaz wrote:
Heads are damaged. Stop working on this disk!


First thanks for your reply,
this disk is not going to recover, just for study.
and I would like to know what is wrong with this one.
So you are saying the heads need to be replaced in order to read the data from it?

If so, how come it can read the data from the platters?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 24th, 2010, 16:23 
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Can this head problem be caused because of a "non clean head"?
Is this possible?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 24th, 2010, 16:55 
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PITA= Pain In The Ass... Or very difficult in plain English.
Your drives head (s) a failing, it's not going to healty'er by screw/unscrew headstack :shock:
If you want the data just try to image it with some good SW.

LoneWolf wrote:
Can this head problem be caused because of a "non clean head"?
Is this possible?

As you did drop your drive, dirty heads it's not the problem.
If you did't drop it with the lid open on a dirty floor? :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
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Any suggestions for a good SW?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
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I put in "harddrive image program" on Google and got over 70 million hits...so there is some of them.
Acronis has good ones....the best don't come for free.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 25th, 2010, 5:29 
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mr_spokk wrote:
I put in "harddrive image program" on Google and got over 70 million hits...so there is some of them.
Acronis has good ones....the best don't come for free.

Bosse




I never mentioned "free" in my last post.
asked for a good recommended one, not a free one.
Do you have something in mind?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
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Sorry to be harsh, but either I don't type good enough or you need new pair of eyes!
http://www.acronis.eu/homecomputing/pro ... 3godSAIbwg

Here is a big spoon :wink:

Regards/ Bosse

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
PostPosted: April 25th, 2010, 7:18 
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Sorry. my bad.
First - Thanks for that, I did see that you've recommended Acronis but as far as I know,
this type of imaging won't help me that much since any bad sector will crash the software.
moreover, as far as I know, this imaging software cannot "reverse" image the drive, so I think
that this is not what I'm looking for.
Can you remap the heads on this software?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
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Last spoon...open up! :wink:
Here is another good one: Media Tools Pro
http://www.prosofteng.com/

Put your original drive and a drive to clone it to in a computer, boot from the cd that you have maked from their sites download section.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitcachi Fell off the table....
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Well tried that too....
Doesn't seem to have any head remapping feature (or again, I didn't see well).
Imaging takes a very long time with MTP :( :(

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