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I just want to create a healthy discussion where you guys who knows far more than us, to give us a little of your light.

Too late maybe. As a colleague said, the times for free lunch are over. The discussions are now behind locked doors just because of the experienced problems. Things change.
Then maybe newbies can help newbies and can go on forever like blind leading the blind....

I just want to say that i`m not here to make some quick money ,i`m already in the IT branch,for years now,and i`m still learning so i dont expect from some hdd guru here to reveal their secrets because probably i wouldnt do that either.
This discussion has gone in a completely different way like most of them go with similar question/topic on this forum I think everything related do DR is hard work, but i find it interesting to learn and study.
As i can see, only newbies here or someone who has started in this area recently can understand me and i can see lots of older members who are telling the story "Dont do that, you cant or its very hard and it will take years for you to learn DR" but that part of story encourages me even more because its little odd that most of hdd gurus wont say nothing related to the thread but they are always here to tell and preach about hard work and outsorcing etc. in their words better leave it to professionals, do not try to learn.Strange isn`t it?

Hi.

There are some good points in this discussion. But what i realised is that this forum is made up of allot of professionals that offer to help innocent and un-knowing new comers. Its almost like a venus fly trap
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there are some genuine nice people on here- when there's money to made.

Here is some advice. Data Recovery and Computers - nothing in common. It is a completely different way of working with hardware. IN computers you get hundreds of motherboards, plug in ram, cpu,hdd, gpu some watts and off it goes- no order
In HDD's - You have a million motherboards- and only 1 chance;sometimes only last 3-5 minutes.

I am only new in DR- 4 months in learning, like some people mentioned here- I made a nice website, flash animations, cool looking buttons some nice information , easy to use - i have been getting more calls by the day. But I dont know much about recvoery- last weekend I read a forums of some shmack that swapped plattes in the living room- gues what i did- took 7 spare hard drives and tried todo what he did.
Outcome- 7 Dead hardrives within minutes. Problems start after you remove the cover instantly. That was just an experiment- i try to outsource all physical damage because i need anothr £5-20k to get proper equipment to do this- and NOPE- nobody on this forum told me about which equipment - what about experience.

You said SalvationData costs the same as PC-3000?? who are you talking too? i haggled them ppls for 6 months i got my whole kit at *bleep* way cheaper than first offered - hahahah kit (all HD Doctors, DataCompass RAID, the the platter tools i will never use - anybody wanna buy? some cheepo tools, connectors, convertors and all that)

Im still new at DR so i actually still wanna type something -but to be honest i open some threads up and read the first 2 lines- i think to myself OMG! what the hell are you on about, next thread.

For what you are saying - i really would recommend SalvationData's Datacompass - You wont need to use recovermyfiles ever again- if the drive spins up and show in bios- 90% success rate (sometimes you need to tweak something, like seagates 7200.11 fw bug, or you get nas drives that create 16kb blocksizes)
-But then again i never used pc-3000-so i cant compare

There are cases where 'dead' drives can be fixed in a matter of minutes; but business is business my friend- and not even i want to document and freely distribute that info.

Buckle up and welcome to the battle of crucial info.

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As your only going to tinker with peoples drives I would recommend that you get some kind of insurance if you make a mistake, you don't want your arse sued for a part time job

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All went well until I plugged the drive in.

I don't think that you understand what I meant.
But I'm still gonna continue what I think that's need to be done.

No one is the master of knowledge, and I'm not gonna die stupid. It can take 1 month, 1 year, 10 years, I don't care but I'm gonna be able to do this.

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Who said i`m going to "tinker" with customers drives,me or you?

I agree with you completely ,dont listen to hdd gurus!

Anyone who is thinking about starting a DR business right now when the future of mechanical drives is in question needs to have their head examined.

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[quote="guru"]As your only going to tinker with peoples drives I would recommend that you get some kind of insurance if you make a mistake, you don't want your arse sued for a part time job


Yea that makes you think a bit. Can I sue Seagate, Maxtor, Fujitsu for any one of the hard drives on which I lost data on? No - because it says so on the box. They will change it it breaks. yaay.

Can anybody really sue a DR for trying to recovery data of a hard disk? a hard disk that was meant to store data in the first place? Where you sued before Guru? It sounds like something from experience.
That kinda freaked me out- just look up to big brother seagate and gonna add some terms and conditions to my website -

'I recover data but if for what ever reason your lost data gets .. lost- You cant sue me.'
Thanks for the tip - You sea- you gotta read between the lines on this forum hehehe

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Still got a long way to go before they make 2terabyte SSD's - they might run on 1/10 of the power and access speeds of 100tiems faster- but datacenters wont be keen on replacing million pounds to save a few hundred thousand.

SSD's existed in the 90's- just nobody wanted to market them. Thanks OCZ

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Let people try ... The market will be the final judge.

I have had drives come to me where customer has requested a report on the drives condition after it has been to one of these crappy data recovery companies.

You get sued? And why not? If you do a substandard job (or even lose the drive !) on a customers drive then you should be held to account. In reality I am not sure if anyone has won a case against a data recovery company but there is always a first time.

( Example : You take your car to a mechanic for engine repairs. 1 week later the mechanic says "Sorry Mate your engine is well screwed now and there is no chance that you will get it working (£1000 please for new one) While all the time it was probably a fault that most pro mechanics with experience know about : How would you feel?)

If your really thinking of starting a data recovery company you should have started 10 years ago not now when there is massive saturation in the market.

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last bit : A simple google shows how many data recovery (ahum ) companies are in Cheshire

PC Input
033 3600 3330 033 3600 3330 - 1 review

Cheadle Data Recovery
0161 408 4857 0161 408 4857 - 16 reviews

Microbitz Computers
01925 414 131 01925 414 131 - More

Global Data Services Ltd
0870 760 7274 0870 760 7274 - More

Compute This
01270 617 490 01270 617 490 - More

Cara Technology
01625 615 384 01625 615 384 - More

DarkData (LLP)
0161 408 6600


So you have seven local already!

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All went well until I plugged the drive in.

Yes, it's not easy to start when there are a lot of other companies doing the same job in your place. But now many markets are occupied and finding a place in IT that is not much occupied and able to give good money is not also that easy.

At least you can try. In three-five months you will understand yourself if you can go further or it is better to change. Anyway it will be a good experience for you.

Good Luck!

Hehehe - i just live in cheshire

I get drives from the whole of UK It must be my competitive prices, nice looking webpage and the way i handle my cleints.
Im still learning by the way.. and after 4 months im already considering expanding my workshop

Any way - i work toehter with 2 of those people listed on what you wrote there. ;-]

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Hi matotalno,

So, you have received some feedback, did this help? what you going to do from here?

Would be nice to know if you gained anything here.

You missed this one www. recovermydata .org .uk

"How does recovermydata manage to keep the price of recoveries so low?

In order to cut into the UK market we need to stand out in some way. Price is always a key factor but does that mean we compromise on quality of service? The answer is NO. (shouldn't this be yes?)

As a new age company we try keep our overheads low. We achieve this by keeping our company mostly internet based. You can enquire at various high street stores in Cheshire about my services. Please note prices quoted at retail stores will be higher."

I didn't see anywhere on the site you only have 4 months experience?

Good pace - well done!

Good Luck to you!

also, this is why you need insurance/disclaimers......

a direct quote from one of your posts....

"Unfortunately I lost a drive because the support guy flashed my drive to FIX it- but I needed the data recovering .. hehe - any way; data lost and 1 good drive later.. i stopped using SD forums and limited support from them."


Your slogan might need editing, "The hard drive is dead but the data lives!"

All except the above case

Sorry mate but you came across a little bit arrogant so I thought I'd bring you down a peg or 2.

See, All it takes is a good website and a New Age (feng shui) approach.

Gurus - it's game over for you guys - the newbies rule