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WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 22nd, 2011, 8:53

Hi folks,
I have a working hard drive (1 TB WD) without a TVS diode D4. What could happen if I use this hard drive (only for some unimportant data) without a D4 overvoltage protection? Will the board be burnt or has the PSU itself a protection? I only want to sure that one of my PCs don't burn my room!

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 22nd, 2011, 10:00

The TVS 's are there for a reason. I would strongly suggest you NOT to use an hdd like that.
It will not start a fire in your house (probably :mrgreen: ) but i wouldn't do it for any reason.

Just bin the drive and use some other cheap drive if you want to store unimportant data on it.
Having said that, its your choice.

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 22nd, 2011, 10:10

you could buy a TVS diode & solder it on

12v diode
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/722663 ... -13-f.html

5v diode
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/722050 ... -13-f.html

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 22nd, 2011, 12:23

fartinger wrote:Hi folks,
I have a working hard drive (1 TB WD) without a TVS diode D4. What could happen if I use this hard drive (only for some unimportant data) without a D4 overvoltage protection? Will the board be burnt or has the PSU itself a protection? I only want to sure that one of my PCs don't burn my room!


The fact that you are even asking the question should raise concerns.

If data is important dont put it at risk. Simple.

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 22nd, 2011, 12:37

... but the data is unimportant :D

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 22nd, 2011, 16:55

fartinger wrote:... but the data is unimportant :D


Then you can use it, but expect it to die easily if your power is not 100%.

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 22nd, 2011, 17:08

Thank you! I should really think about to do it right and replace this diode.
but expect it to die easily if your power is not 100%.

For example when there's a thunderstorm and produces failues in the power? I ask about that especially because we had a DSL-Modem that was broken because of that.

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 22nd, 2011, 17:10

Yes, a surge or something similar. The TVS diode will sacrifice itself in order to save the rest of the drive. Without it there is no protection and this surge will destroy the components of your hard drive. Or even if your power supply is faulty it could have the same outcome.

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 23rd, 2011, 7:07

I fail to see why anybody would use a potentially unreliable HDD for storing data. Even if the data is not important a HDD failure can be at the very least a pain when you consider re-installing OS, reloading data, replacement of media...etc

I just dont get it...

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 23rd, 2011, 7:14

Ignorance is bliss to some :)

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 23rd, 2011, 8:55

That a typical reaction from other persons when someone asks a
Once more: The data is unimportant, and even the whole hard disk is no system partition.

I'm not ignorant in this case, I only want to know what happend when I not replace the diode. Not more and not less was my initial intent to start this post.

@Nick_CT: I just hate it when you and (in general other users) say I'm ignorant hance.

I even wrote that:
Thank you! I should really think about to do it right and replace this diode.


So, please read first and post them.

(@Nick_CT: Some time I don't understand ironic, please be careful with me :mrgreen: )

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 23rd, 2011, 8:57

I was not saying you were ignorant, as you had mentioned you wanted to replace to diode and not store important data. I was saying that ignorance is bliss "to some people". People here are only trying to help.

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 23rd, 2011, 16:37

fartinger wrote:I'm not ignorant in this case ...

Nick wasn't attacking you.

"Ignorance is bliss" is an adage that doesn't necessarily have a derogatory meaning. It just means that if you're not aware of a potential problem, then you won't be worried by it.

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

November 23rd, 2011, 20:30

It was bruend once and removed. If you want to use it again this is your choice on this one. But next time it can burn the preamp on it. You would be better off to find another pcb board and move your ROM over and go from there. I would not replace the TVS or even trust it at all. It could of burned for reasons of a person plugging in the wrong power supply or a number of other reason unknown. But to keep using it is a risk and personally I would not take this one even if your data is unimportant as you say. Buy a new PCB and move over your ROM and store your unimportant data on it. Or if you feel really lucky use it as it is.

Re: WD harddrive without TVS diode

December 7th, 2011, 10:35

@fzabkar: OK, thanks. This was my misunerstanding, it's hard for a non-native english-speaking guy to understand that. So, I am aware of this potential problem :D

@poehere:
It could of burned for reasons of a person plugging in the wrong power supply or a number of other reason unknown

This person can only be myself, but I think I find the right S-ATA power, because there are only one kind of S-ATA power-cables, because it's no external HDD, simply inside a tinny box with a power source and a funny more little box were you can put strange round plastic plates inside. :mrgreen:
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