Data recovery and disk repair questions and discussions related to old-fashioned SATA, SAS, SCSI, IDE, MFM hard drives - any type of storage device that has moving parts
April 15th, 2013, 9:32
michael chiklis wrote:I downloaded the resource dump linked by "fzabkar" and i took from it module 32 and i wrote into my drive ...
I don't know why you did this, but did you match the MOD version?
April 15th, 2013, 9:41
The drive has at least one bad head
April 15th, 2013, 9:52
pcimage wrote:The drive has at least one bad head
I totally agree. I think head 1 is gone.
Maybe it's possible to depop, regen translator with p list, then it would be like a drive with less one platter. If you clone that drive you should get blobs of data that can be searched with file carving.
It will not be like DDI with the space for you to fill with the missing data later when you swap heads, but if it reads from the other platters i think that at least some data will be recoverable with file carving.
Of course i might be wrong, but you can restore the modules and rom and the drive will be as it is now.
April 15th, 2013, 9:56
I notice that in the SMART report the Current Pending Sectors attribute has a worst normalised value of 1. This suggests that at one time there were several thousand pending sectors but these have since been returned to service. Sounds like an intermittent fault to me ...
April 15th, 2013, 10:09
fzabkar wrote:michael chiklis wrote:I downloaded the resource dump linked by "fzabkar" and i took from it module 32 and i wrote into my drive ...
I don't know why you did this, but did you match the MOD version?
Yes MOD version is the same
My original mod 32:
mod 32 resource dump:
April 15th, 2013, 10:15
fzabkar wrote:I notice that in the SMART report the Current Pending Sectors attribute has a worst normalised value of 1. This suggests that at one time there were several thousand pending sectors but these have since been returned to service. Sounds like an intermittent fault to me ...
Could it be a smart issue?
It's possible to disable smart in WDR 3.0?
This was the original smart status:
Smart status now:
April 15th, 2013, 10:30
Use mhdd. The command is
Smart off .
WDR 3.0 can clear smart.
April 15th, 2013, 10:36
SMART isn't the reason for your problems. SMART is merely reporting the problems.
AISI, the Raw Read Error Rate, Seek Error Rate, and Current Pending Sectors were clues that the drive had a head fault. Your defect list pointed to head 4, but subsequent testing hinted at head 1.
Your latest SMART results are typical of a new drive which has not yet recorded sufficient activity in order for the SMART data to be statistically significant. That's why you see a lot of "253" values.
April 15th, 2013, 10:43
That is because he resetted smart using wdr
April 15th, 2013, 11:01
fzabkar wrote:Your defect list pointed to head 4, but subsequent testing hinted at head 1.
If i decide to do head depop, should i do it on head 1 or head 4?
Or both?
April 15th, 2013, 11:28
i would go for head 1 first. If it doesn't improve anything i would return head 1 to use, re-flash rom and try to depop head 4.
April 20th, 2013, 15:42
I tried to copy files and folder in dos with NTFS4DOS utility, but i don't understand why it copies only the first file in the directory.
This utility it ignores all other files in the directory when i give the copy command (it ignores also all sub-directorys).
Maybe the problem is due to the issue on drive...
Examples of commands which i tried:
1. "copy e:\foto d:foto"
2. "cd e:\foto"
"copy *.* d:\foto"
Both this commands copy only 1 file of the directory (the first one)
P.S.
With NTFS4DOS i'm able to see all files in the directory (with DIR command), but not to copy all of them!!
Do you know some other dos program which are able to copy files and folders for NTFS sourse partition?
April 20th, 2013, 16:10
michael chiklis wrote:Both this commands copy only 1 file of the directory (the first one)
That's expected, because they are the wrong commands for the result that you are requesting. You need to investigate the DOS
xcopy command and its options (e.g. /s /e) in order to copy sub-directories. I haven't used NTFS4DOS - any issues with that are a different problem. You need to try the correct DOS command (i.e. xcopy) first
April 20th, 2013, 16:15
I tried xcopy, doesn't detect ntfs partition!

In NTFS4DOS option /s /e are not able
April 20th, 2013, 16:43
There are other DOS NTFS readers, but I don't know which ones you've already tried... As I explained, when you find one which works for you and which mounts the NTFS partition as a drive letter, you need to understand the limitations of the DOS copy command. Also I didn't see you explain why you are trying to do this from DOS.
April 20th, 2013, 17:17
Vulcan wrote:There are other DOS NTFS readers, but I don't know which ones you've already tried... As I explained, when you find one which works for you and which mounts the NTFS partition as a drive letter, you need to understand the limitations of the DOS copy command. Also I didn't see you explain why you are trying to do this from DOS.
Because cloning the drive is not an option due to the very low speed (i don't even have those expensive tools for cloning as DDI).
I need to recover only pics folder (which is about 100GB), in dos i can access to the folder directory and i can see all files are inside, but i hadn't luck on copying those until now.
April 20th, 2013, 17:49
I tried 2 more MOD read with WDR.
1: Read with "by ID" ticked, which i already did few days ago, all module are checked as "good" with green mark.
2. Read with "by ID" unticked, all modules are checked ad "bad" with red mark.
In WDR i get this errors log when i try to read with unticked "by ID".Someone does know if this is due to software bug or to faulty drive?
April 20th, 2013, 18:00
michael chiklis wrote:Vulcan wrote:There are other DOS NTFS readers, but I don't know which ones you've already tried... As I explained, when you find one which works for you and which mounts the NTFS partition as a drive letter, you need to understand the limitations of the DOS copy command. Also I didn't see you explain why you are trying to do this from DOS.
Because cloning the drive is not an option due to the very low speed (i don't even have those expensive tools for cloning as DDI).
I need to recover only pics folder (which is about 100GB), in dos i can access to the folder directory and i can see all files are inside, but i hadn't luck on copying those until now.
copy *.* (destination folder) should have worked to copy all files from a normal dos prompt.
I think that the other option will be copy a file at a time ...
April 20th, 2013, 18:03
michael chiklis wrote:I tried 2 more MOD read with WDR.
1: Read with "by ID" ticked, which i already did few days ago, all module are checked as "good" with green mark.
2. Read with "by ID" unticked, all modules are checked ad "bad" with red mark.
Good MOD read by ID.JPG
Bad MOD read on both head.JPG
In WDR i get this errors log when i try to read with unticked "by ID".error log on bad MOD read by head.JPG
Someone does know if this is due to software bug or to faulty drive?
MAYBE Head 0 is damaged and the drive is reading SA from the 2nd copy then
April 20th, 2013, 18:06
SA 2nd copy is on head 1?
If i untick "by ID" i get error on head 0 and also head 1
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