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HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 7th, 2013, 16:09

Hello

I have read from this forum that some hdds require swapping rom chip when doing pcb swap. Does that my Samsung HD080HJ need this or doesn't it?
Here is the hdd picture: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3182686/ketas.jpg
Here is a donor drive picture: http://www.upload.ee/image/3211004/DSC_0003.jpg

I accidentally killed it by swapping 12v and 5v wires. I did a fan mod from 12v to 5v and didn't check that much it before plugging in. :(

Would switching the pcb work?

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 7th, 2013, 16:49

You might get away without changing the PCB at all.

The problem might well be blown fuse and/or TVS diode(s).

Take the PCB off and post a photo of the component side.

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 8th, 2013, 8:49

Picture of the PCB:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3182686/2013-0 ... .46.37.jpg
Where are the fuses or other critical parts located?

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 8th, 2013, 10:46

Kaar3l wrote:Picture of the PCB:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3182686/2013-0 ... .46.37.jpg
Where are the fuses or other critical parts located?



are you used welders, and hot air welders before?

if yes probably get data, if not maybe loose data. If data important to you contact with a pro maybe you get data for a 50$ quotation

PM if you want

thanks

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 8th, 2013, 12:46

Where are the fuses or other critical parts located?


Just below the SATA Power connector
The two fuse ( marked 000)
The two TVS diodes(one is marked LEM)
And two inductors.

What is the current condition of the drive ?
Does the PC power up when the drive is connected ?
(If the TVS is failed, it won't allow the system to power up)

I accidentally killed it by swapping 12v and 5v wires.

There are chances that the VCM(& somtimes MCU) might have failed too.
Check if these IC's are getting abnormally Hot.

Also the ROM is not external. Swapping MCU is not DIY

If data is important , its safe to take pro help ,
and if its only PCB fault it shouldn't cost you much.

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 8th, 2013, 13:18

When I plug it it it doesn't do anything. Doesn't spin up.

Tomorrow I'll get another same hdd then I'll swap pcb-s and then we'll see.


hhddrec wrote:
Kaar3l wrote:Picture of the PCB:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3182686/2013-0 ... .46.37.jpg
Where are the fuses or other critical parts located?



are you used welders, and hot air welders before?

if yes probably get data, if not maybe loose data. If data important to you contact with a pro maybe you get data for a 50$ quotation

PM if you want

thanks

I have swapped RAM chips on routers with success before.

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 9th, 2013, 5:48

thanks[/quote]
I have swapped RAM chips on routers with success before.[/quote]

Them as sathyan said

Just below the SATA Power connector
The two fuse ( marked 000)
The two TVS diodes(one is marked LEM)
And two inductors.

This is a good advice

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 9th, 2013, 6:07

I changed pcb and it just clicks for about 10 seconds and then shuts off. Bios doesn't see it.

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 9th, 2013, 6:31

Spildit wrote:Changing pcb will not help.
Most likely pre-amp is gone too. If you can't fix the damaged pcb you will not be able to move ROM to new pcb too, as it's embeded on mcu.
If you need the data send the drive to a pro.


Goood advice Spildit
I say the same.

Contact with local pro probably a low price recovery case

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 10th, 2013, 1:18

@Kaar3l, measure the resistances of the two TVS diodes (marking "QE" and "LEM"), plus the two zero-ohm resistors ("000").

If the 5V diode (QE) is shorted, then remove it. If the resistor below it is shorted, then flow a blob of solder over it.

If you have a multimeter, we can then measure some voltage test points before you install the board on your drive.

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 10th, 2013, 1:29

fzabkar wrote:If the resistor below it is shorted, then flow a blob of solder over it.

Replace the resistor or contact a professional. Never use a solder blob unless you like sparks and smoke.

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 10th, 2013, 1:41

...or fireworks.

?

April 10th, 2013, 3:25

Hi

What happened?
Have you been banned?

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 10th, 2013, 5:04

This advices must recover your data.

Are you test diodes and resistors.?

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 10th, 2013, 7:13

Contacted professional and got a price and it was astronomical. :shock: :D



Then I measured both the broken drive TVS diodes and new drive diodes and I think the problem was the 5V TVS. But I changed all of them there where the voltage comes in.


So my replaced parts are marked in red polygon.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3182686/2013-0 ... 7fixed.jpg

I can't make picture of the current situation because it is coping stuff. :D
SO BIG THANKS to you guys pointing me right direction!!! :please:

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 11th, 2013, 1:18

Nice work.

BTW, how much did the professional quote you?

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 11th, 2013, 3:57

fzabkar wrote:Nice work.

BTW, how much did the professional quote you?

About 400usd. :shock:

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 11th, 2013, 6:38

Nice job.
And lucky too..

Re: HD080HJ PCB swap question

April 11th, 2013, 10:23

Good Job here
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