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jaco777
 Post subject: ST3160023A 7200.7 - not visible in BIOS, terminal maybe ok ?
PostPosted: March 22nd, 2013, 15:38 
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Welcome. Jacek from Poland. Sorry for my English.

Hard disk working normally, no knocking etc. Recently you had two or three times plugging the USB adapter to be recognized properly. Today, nothing helps. Plugged into IDE cable is not seen in the BIOS. Starts properly, spins plates, sometimes going head to work.

Data disc label:
ST3160023A 7200.7
PN: 9W2804-006
HDA PN: 100314751
Config: D8U-01
Firmware: 8.01
Data code: 05057
Site Code: AMK

Board electronics:
100306044 REV A
PWC J-S
94V-0
0415-17-02

The onboard chip:
SH6950 D

Looking through this forum, I got the following data from terminal:
Code:
Interface task reset
4096k x 16 buffer detected
ALPINE - 1_Disk    M.14  01-16-03 11:51

Buzz  - Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
8.01  04-05-04 15:38
(P)PATA Reset
Master


CTRL + Z (to bring terminal up)
CTRL + U (current stuff)
AT Stuff
0000: 0c5a  3fff  c837  0010   0000  0000  003f  0000
0008: 0000  0000  334c  4a31   5846  4150  2020  2020
0010: 2020  2020  2020  2020   0000  4000  0004  382e
0018: 3031  2020  2020  5354   3331  3630  3032  3341
0020: 2020  2020  2020  2020   2020  2020  2020  2020
0028: 2020  2020  2020  2020   2020  2020  2020  8010
0030: 0000  2f00  4000  0200   0200  0007  3fff  0010
0038: 003f  0000  0000  0010   ffff  0fff  0000  0007
0040: 0003  0078  0078  00f0   0078  0000  0000  0000
0048: 0000  0000  0000  0000   0000  0000  0000  0000
0050: 007e  001b  346b  7d01   5823  0060  3c00  4020
0058: 003f  0000  0000  fefe   fffe  404b  8000  0000
0060: 0000  0000  0000  0000   9eb0  12a1  0000  0000
0068: 0000  0000  0000  0000   0000  0000  0000  0000
0070: 0000  0000  0000  0000   0000  0000  0000  0000
0078: 0000  0000  0000  0000   0000  0000  0000  0000
0080: 0001  9eb0  12a1  9eb0   12a1  2020  0002  42b6
0088: 0000  008a  3c06  3c0a   0000  07c6  0100  0800
0090: 10f0  1000  0002  0030   0000  0000  0000  fe06
0098: 0000  0002  0000  0000   0000  0000  0023  000b
00a0: 000f  0006  0003  0000   0032  0014  0033  0024
00a8: 000f  001e  0032  0000   0013  0061  0032  0014
00b0: 0022  0000  001a  0000   0012  0000  0010  0000
00b8: 003e  0000  0000  0000   0032  0000  0000  0000
00c0: 0000  0000  0000  0000   0000  0000  0000  0000
00c8: 0000  0000  0000  0000   0000  0000  0000  0000
00d0: 0000  0000  0000  0000   0000  0000  0000  0000
00d8: 0000  0000  0000  0000   0001  0000  0000  ffff
00e0: 000a  460f  0000  0000   0000  0000  0000  0000
00e8: 0000  0000  0000  ffff   00bd  0000  0000  0096
00f0: 0000  0000  0000  0000   0000  0000  0000  0000
00f8: 0000  0000  0018  0000   0000  0000  0000  0000

Configured-1
Part #: 100343093


CTRR + L (ROM info)
ALPINE - 2_Disk    8.01  04-05-04 15:38
Built for ALPINE,GRAND2,Diamondback,TI1761 PreAmp,STL6 Andante PreAmp,InternalSp
in,GC110,SVC123AC,OneToOne,2Disk,LowDelta,220 Servos,7200RPM,8Pole,NonModGray,10
0MHz,Code DRAM,Early Exit,Stall Converter,RwFeat=0000,SeaDex,HDW


CTRL + A (Eng rev)
Eng Rev = .219


. (kropka)
Pgm=00 Trk=008E5(008E5).1(1).40B(339) Zn=0 Err=00 ErCt=0000 Hlth=0008 CHlth=0000
Ready LBA=00976009


; (średnik)
Age=50 Type=23 MxCyl=16358 MxHd=3 MxSct=44C BSz=0000 TCode=0000


% (procent)
:5000000823000003  AX`3LJ1XFAP'  "000000000000"0F68E-0F70D
SRAM Ovly = Diag


? (znak zapytania)
RD:0200:10
WR:0210:10
AC:022B:01FF
AS:042A:0065
SC:048F:0201
DP:022B:01FF
BA:0227:03
ST:022A:01
logbps:0200
codebps:0200

uP:3FE2:1E
FM:0220:07
AD:0220:0B
RL:3FDD
SL:3F1A
AL:3F03
MZ:3FF6


k + <Enter>
Command Inactive - No VALID Cert Code Detected


y + <Enter>
Command Inactive - No VALID Cert Code Detected


CTRL + R
( VALID Cert Disk Code Detected - Revision # .248


(display zone map)
T>/2
2>x
Zone 00:  00018 - 00BE8  1100 (044C) 683.439
Zone 01:  00BE9 - 027FE  1056 (0420) 666.63
Zone 02:  027FF - 04707  1026 (0402) 646.275
Zone 03:  04708 - 06CA3   990 (03DE) 622.431
Zone 04:  06CA4 - 08B66   953 (03B9) 602.353
Zone 05:  08B67 - 0A479   916 (0394) 580.392
Zone 06:  0A47A - 0C405   880 (0370) 545.882
Zone 07:  0C406 - 0D99A   836 (0344) 527.59
Zone 08:  0D99B - 0ECD9   806 (0326) 506.144
Zone 09:  0ECDA - 10337   770 (0302) 480.724
Zone 0A:  10338 - 11397   733 (02DD) 461.672
Zone 0B:  11398 - 12854   691 (02B3) 437.423
Zone 0C:  12855 - 13F38   660 (0294) 410.353
Zone 0D:  13F39 - 14AE7   623 (026F) 396.401
Zone 0E:  14AE8 - 155D6   605 (025D) 383.316
Zone 0F:  155D7 - 16358   572 (023C) 363.922
Sys= 0F68E-0F70D   0280 SPTK on sys trks
Total LBAs = 12A6D3F0


(for G-list)
2>/0
T>V4
Alternate Defect List
Num Entries = 0004    Checksum = B6E6
Alt 002B7.0.08A Offset 0000
Alt 002B8.0.08A Offset 0001
Alt 002B9.0.08A Offset 0002
Alt 002BA.0.08A Offset 0003



(reset SMART)
( VALID Cert Disk Code Detected - Revision # .248

T>nterface task reset
4096k x 16 buffer detected
ALPINE - 1_Disk    M.14  01-16-03 11:51
Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
8.01  04-05-04 15:38
(P)PATA Reset

T>/1
1>N1

Initializing SMART Sectors...................................
1>Interface task reset
4096k x 16 buffer detected
ALPINE - 1_Disk    M.14  01-16-03 11:51
Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
8.01  04-05-04 15:38
(P)PATA Reset
Master


V7 and sending command got what is in the file below.
Attachment:
160GB log z terminala V7+Enter.txt [163.68 KiB]
Downloaded 1206 times


Is there anything else I can provide to assist in the diagnosis of a terminal? The 7200.7 series, unfortunately not many specifics I found and ask for help and guidance. Recovery of data is not necessary, just the correct work / recognize the disk.
I cleaned the contacts on the motor and heads. I checked the pins on the IDE - appear to be working. Measured the resistor bridges the IDE, also good.
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jaco777
 Post subject: Re: ST3160023A 7200.7 - not visible in BIOS, terminal maybe
PostPosted: March 23rd, 2013, 18:02 
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Thank you for your answer.

Of course, connected the hard drive to a desktop computer with a single IDE. I tried as Master, Slave, Cable select and 32GB limits - has always been not visible in the BIOS.

Is this program can help me: http://www.salvationdata.com/data-recov ... rapair.htm ?
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jaco777
 Post subject: Re: ST3160023A 7200.7 - not visible in BIOS, terminal maybe
PostPosted: March 28th, 2013, 17:01 
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Quote:
Does MHDD detect the drive ? Does it find "anything" whet accessing the drive ?
Plug it directly to the board and test it with mhdd.

Unfortunately, on my motherboard, MHDD does not find any HDD IDE driver (even good, which is detected in the BIOS and it works well). MHDD find only the HDD SATA drives. Other programs see IDE drives. I'll have to try on a different motherboard.

Quote:
My guess is something broken on the PCB, maybe the ATA interface, like a pin on the IDE connector or something preventing the connection by ATA interface.
Drive is at age=50, so it should work at ATA level, and it's reporting Master too .... so ... my guess is firmware is ok.

Pin IDE checked by meter - look good. Arrange soldering again for sure. Resistors also checked - look good, everyone has a resistance, bridge resistors have equal resistance.
In the end, I'll try to buy the same PCB.

Quote:
Are you sure all pins are ok on the IDE interface ?
When you plug the drive and power on the PC using the IDE interface, can you go to the BIOS settings and see if the drive can be detected there ? Maybe you have the IDE channels de-activated on BIOS ?
It doesn't sould to be neither firmware neither Heads/Preamp problem .... Did you try the drive on another computer ? Did you try to plug the drive alone on the IDE cable ? Whitout any other drive on the same cable even if it's a cd/dvd drive ?

Of course, another good drive (IBM) is detected by the BIOS and works correctly. IDE channels are active and good on the motherboard, other IDE drives work.
Of course, I tried only the drive (Seagate) on cable, no other drives.

Unfortunately, I went out of the house now and I can not do anything on the disk.
How do I get back, to try MHDD on another board, and I'll re-soldering the IDE pins on PCB.

Thank you for your answers.
Administrator's please do not close the post.
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pcimage
 Post subject: Re: ST3160023A 7200.7 - not visible in BIOS, terminal maybe
PostPosted: March 28th, 2013, 19:40 
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I think PCB is ok

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 Post subject: Re: ST3160023A 7200.7 - not visible in BIOS, terminal maybe
PostPosted: March 28th, 2013, 19:44 
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Probably nothing "too" serious, but then again not DIY.

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jaco777
 Post subject: Re: ST3160023A 7200.7 - not visible in BIOS, terminal maybe
PostPosted: May 28th, 2013, 15:54 
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Hello. I am now back at home and I can continue to repair the disk.

When the failed drive is set to slave, and connected to as single, then is not visible. I tried MASTER, SLAVE, CABLE SELECT and LIMIT GB, is always not visible.
When I connect to a good drive and corrupt drive on IDE tape, a good drive and corrupt drive is not visible.
When I connect to a good drive and good drive on IDE tape, a both good drive is visible (tape is good).
When I connect to a CD/DVD and corrupt drive on IDE tape, a CD/DVD is visible but corrupt drive is not visible.
I tried these combinations:
Code:
Good Seagate 20GB Master        + Bad Seagate 160GB Slave        = do not see both
Good Seagate 20GB Cable Select  + Bad Seagate 160GB Slave        = do not see both
Good Seagate 20GB Slave         + Bad Seagate 160GB Slave        = do not see both
Good Seagate 20GB Master with non-ATA compatible slave + Bad Seagate 160GB Slave = do not see both
Good Seagate 20GB Limit GB      + Bad Seagate 160GB Slave        = do not see both
Good Seagate 20GB Cable Select  + Bad Seagate 160GB Cable Select = do not see both
Good Seagate 20GB Master        + Bad Seagate 160GB Cable Select = do not see both
Good Seagate 20GB Cable Select  + Bad Seagate 160GB Limit GB     = do not see both
Good Seagate 20GB Master        + Bad Seagate 160GB Master       = do not see both
Good Seagate 20GB Cable Select  + Bad Seagate 160GB Master       = do not see both
Good Seagate 20GB Slave         + Bad Seagate 160GB Master       = do not see both
Good CD/DVD Slave               + Bad Seagate 160GB Cable Select = visible only CD/DVD


I made it, but it did not help.
Code:
T>F
SetStuff->ASCIFE
Setting stuff to defaults
T>

T>F
SetStuff->ASCI839EB112A1
Stuff key 83 -> 9e b1 12 a1
T>

T>F
SetStuff->ASCI3C9EB112A1
T>

T>F
SetStuff->ASCI1B5354333136303032334120202020202020202020
Stuff key 1b -> 53 54 33 31 36 30 30 32 33 41 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 ff f
f ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
T>


On another forum I was asked to do this (my comments are in the log).
Code:
Interface task reset
4096k x 16 buffer detected
ALPINE - 1_Disk    M.14  01-16-03 11:51
Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
8.01  04-05-04 15:38
(P)PATA Reset
Master

"push buttons CTRL+T and"

( VALID Cert Disk Code Detected - Revision # .248

T>H

"large H does not work, no reaction"
"T4 is already running and under the effect of"

T>T4
Begin Test 04
Cert Table loaded
ASCII logging on
ASCII logging off
ASCII logging on
Kick Off Test

Testing head 0...
DAC value = FEC6
Biasing with current 0025mA
DAC value = FDBB
Biasing with current 0050mA
DAC value = FCB0
Biasing with current 0075mA
DAC value = FBA5
Biasing with current 0100mA
DAC value = FA9A
Not at ODCS
Passed  Max OD Bias Current = 0100mA. Limit = 0050mA

Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
Testing head 1...
DAC value = FEC4
Not at ODCS
DAC value = FDB9
Biasing with current 0050mA
DAC value = FCAE
Biasing with current 0075mA
DAC value = FBA3
Biasing with current 0100mA
DAC value = FA98
Biasing with current 0125mA
DAC value = F98D
Biasing with current 0150mA
DAC value = F882
Biasing with current 0175mA
DAC value = F777
Biasing with current 0200mA
DAC value = FEC4
Passed  Max OD Bias Current = 0200mA. Limit = 0050mA

Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
Testing head 2...
DAC value = FEC4
Biasing with current 0025mA
DAC value = FDB9
Biasing with current 0050mA
DAC value = FCAE
Biasing with current 0075mA
DAC value = FBA3
Biasing with current 0100mA
DAC value = FA98
Biasing with current 0125mA
DAC value = F98D
Biasing with current 0150mA
DAC value = F882
Biasing with current 0175mA
DAC value = F777
Biasing with current 0200mA
DAC value = FEC4
Passed  Max OD Bias Current = 0200mA. Limit = 0050mA

Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
Testing head 3...
DAC value = FEC8
Biasing with current 0025mA
DAC value = FDBD
Biasing with current 0050mA
DAC value = FCB2
Not at ODCS
DAC value = FBA7
Biasing with current 0100mA
DAC value = FA9C
Biasing with current 0125mA
DAC value = F991
Biasing with current 0150mA
DAC value = F886
Biasing with current 0175mA
DAC value = F77B
Biasing with current 0200mA
DAC value = FEC8
Passed  Max OD Bias Current = 0200mA. Limit = 0050mA

Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
ASCII logging off
OkEnd Test 04
T>


Again for the last head:
Code:
Testing head 3...
DAC value = FEC5
Biasing with current 0025mA
DAC value = FDBA
Biasing with current 0050mA
DAC value = FCAF
Biasing with current 0075mA
DAC value = FBA4
Biasing with current 0100mA
DAC value = FA99
Biasing with current 0125mA
DAC value = F98E
Not at ODCS
Passed  Max OD Bias Current = 0125mA. Limit = 0050mA


And a third time for the last head
Code:
Testing head 3...
DAC value = FEC6
Biasing with current 0025mA
DAC value = FDBB
Biasing with current 0050mA
DAC value = FCB0
Biasing with current 0075mA
DAC value = FBA5
Biasing with current 0100mA
DAC value = FA9A
Biasing with current 0125mA
DAC value = F98F
Biasing with current 0150mA
DAC value = F884
Biasing with current 0175mA
DAC value = F779
Biasing with current 0200mA
DAC value = FEC6
Passed  Max OD Bias Current = 0200mA. Limit = 0050mA


I tried the program http://www.salvationdata.com/data-recov ... rapair.htm but nothing helped.
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jaco777
 Post subject: Re: ST3160023A 7200.7 - not visible in BIOS, terminal maybe
PostPosted: June 1st, 2013, 11:23 
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I think I broke something. I took a trick from another forum, and I did so:
Code:
T>/2
2>
"push CTRL+Z"
VALID Cert Disk Code Detected - Revision # .133
2>N2


It took 15 hours (fifteen hours). After this time, the disk came in a series of restarts displaying in the terminal:
Code:
Interface task reset
4096k x 16 buffer detected
ALPINE - 1_Disk    M.14  01-16-03 11:51

Buzz  - Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
8.01  04-05-04 15:38
(P)PATA Reset
Not Interface Age!
VALID Cert Disk Code Detected - Revision # .248
Cert Table loaded
No script first instruction.
No valid SeaDex script on disc.
Begin Test 40
ASCII logging on

Buzz  - Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready

Buzz  - Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready

Buzz  - Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready

Buzz  - Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready


"unplug power cable - power off and power on"------------------------------------------------------------------


Interface task reset
4096k x 16 buffer detected
ALPINE - 1_Disk    M.14  01-16-03 11:51

Buzz  - Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
8.01  04-05-04 15:38
(P)PATA Reset
Not Interface Age!
VALID Cert Disk Code Detected - Revision # .248
Cert Table loaded
No script first instruction.
No valid SeaDex script on disc.
Begin Test 40
ASCII logging on

Buzz  - Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready

Buzz  - Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready


"over and over again, like the rushing of

heads"------------------------------------------------------------------------


I saw the message "Not Interface Age!", so I sent:

Code:
T>N50,,22
T>

"push CTRL+T"------------------------------------------

  T>nterface task reset
4096k x 16 buffer detected
ALPINE - 1_Disk    M.14  01-16-03 11:51
Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
8.01  04-05-04 15:38
(P)PATA Reset
OVERLAY FAILED
              T>

"unplug power cable - power off and power on"--------------------------

Interface task reset
4096k x 16 buffer detected
ALPINE - 1_Disk    M.14  01-16-03 11:51

Buzz  - Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
              Spin Ready
8.01  04-05-04 15:38
(P)PATA Reset
OVERLAY FAILED
              T>


Now do I have to upload the firmware to the drive? I found exactly the file you need to "ALPINE - 1_Disk M.14 01-16-03 11:51". File is expands BIN and the size of 65kB. But I did not find information on how to upload it. Did I do something else?


Attachments:
Log command N2.TXT [503.88 KiB]
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poehere
 Post subject: Re: ST3160023A 7200.7 - not visible in BIOS, terminal maybe
PostPosted: June 1st, 2013, 13:48 
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I am sorry to inform you if you needed data on this disk that you have destroyed all data on this disk. You can not issue terminal codes to the HDD if you do not understand them. I know the code you thought you were using were for all drives but the ones posts for the old trick as you called this one was for a busy error or 0 LBA problems. The HDD you indicated was not shown in BIOS. I think you should of taken the advice of the other one here and used only MHDD to see this drive. If your MB could not handle the drive and using MHDD then you could of tried on another computer. Right now you are done with this and there is not much left for you to do now. You have destroeyed all your data on the drive. I am sorry to inform you of this one. I hope this was not an important HDD and it was just one you were playing around with. Because now it can not read your data again. The answer to this FW is no you do not load this to the HDD now because if you can not understand the problem loading FW is not going to help fix it at all. Sorry.

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jaco777
 Post subject: Re: ST3160023A 7200.7 - not visible in BIOS, terminal maybe
PostPosted: June 2nd, 2013, 10:21 
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Thank you for your comments.

The data on the hard disk is not important. Unfortunately MHDD does not see the hard drive, I tried on two computers. At the beginning user Spildit asked me to check the hard drive the program.

I learn from mistakes. Please be understanding :-).

Thank User Spildit for the link to the program. Now I am looking for detailed information on how to operate it. If I have questions I'll write.
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