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 Post subject: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 9th, 2014, 8:52 
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Hi Gurus.

I have here a Maxtor Sabre Drive.

Model : Maxtor 6L320S0
Serial : Lxxxxxx
Firmware : BCNC1G10
Capacity : 301,68 GB (632 672 208)

The drive Starts from SA copy3

then I can see problems reading same SA secs for example: 93 module from copy1

Any way to reapair this badly FW areas?


I will be happy to heart about you!
Thanks in advanced


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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 9th, 2014, 9:57 
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There is no way to repair bad sectors so you can forget about that. If you're using a tool like PC-3000 to read the SA you might be able to get a complete read of the SA and tracks using composite read, and then do a smart hotswap.

If you need more explanation PM me and we can talk about it on Skype.

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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 9th, 2014, 10:14 
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PC3k has method to relocate bad SA sectors on Maxtors....

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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 9th, 2014, 13:08 
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Sorry, I didn't even look at what model drive it was. Don't listen to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 9th, 2014, 14:30 
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No problem relocating bad SA sectors on most makes&models. Just, PC3K doesn't support it :)

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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
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So what tools are you using to do it? I usually woudn't even bother to try, once I get a good read of the SA, I just hotswap using the patient SA.

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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 10th, 2014, 3:34 
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data-medics wrote:
There is no way to repair bad sectors so you can forget about that. If you're using a tool like PC-3000 to read the SA you might be able to get a complete read of the SA and tracks using composite read, and then do a smart hotswap.

If you need more explanation PM me and we can talk about it on Skype.


Hi data-medics, thanks for your help.

Very interesting your way. Maybe posible

Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 10th, 2014, 3:37 
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guru wrote:
No problem relocating bad SA sectors on most makes&models. Just, PC3K doesn't support it :)



Hi Guru!

Thansk 4 your quick support

Is very interesting your way. but how you can realocating BAD Secs?, what tool do you use?, whats the way?

Thanks for your help.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
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I don't know about reallocating individual sectors, but ISTM that a general way to relocate entire modules to different positions in the SA would be to find a vacant contiguous area on a track, shift the faulty module to that spot, and then edit the module directory to point to this new location. I think I might be able to do this manually on at least some WD models using MHDD scripts.

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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 10th, 2014, 6:29 
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You can also do that using Sediv for WD drives. Edit the Dir module, then write the module. You can move the module to anywhere, where there are unimportant modules (HZ modules) or to the end of the utilized area.

fzabkar wrote:
I don't know about reallocating individual sectors, but ISTM that a general way to relocate entire modules to different positions in the SA would be to find a vacant contiguous area on a track, shift the faulty module to that spot, and then edit the module directory to point to this new location. I think I might be able to do this manually on at least some WD models using MHDD scripts.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
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fzabkar wrote:
I don't know about reallocating individual sectors, but ISTM that a general way to relocate entire modules to different positions in the SA would be to find a vacant contiguous area on a track, shift the faulty module to that spot, and then edit the module directory to point to this new location. I think I might be able to do this manually on at least some WD models using MHDD scripts.



Thanks Fzabkar!

but is a Maxtor drive,
any way in this case?


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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 10th, 2014, 8:32 
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[quote="Matiw"]You can also do that using Sediv for WD drives. Edit the Dir module, then write the module. You can move the module to anywhere, where there are unimportant modules (HZ modules) or to the end of the utilized area.

Thanks Matiw!

I say the same. Is a Maxtor drive.
then, any way in this case?

So many thanks to all members here.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 10th, 2014, 13:00 
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Unfortunately Sediv does not support Maxtor drives.


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Thanks Matiw!

I say the same. Is a Maxtor drive.
then, any way in this case?

So many thanks to all members here.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 10th, 2014, 16:06 
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hhddrec wrote:
but is a Maxtor drive,
any way in this case?

I've examined the SA structures of WD and Samsung drives, but I haven't done the same for Maxtors. Sorry.

If you could upload your drive's resources, perhaps I could have a look, or maybe one of the professional members could show you what to do. It might also help to know which tools you have at your disposal.

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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
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hhddrec wrote:
Model : Maxtor 6L320S0
Firmware : BCNC1G10
Capacity : 301,68 GB (632 672 208)


1) If critical modules are gone from A , it's another story.
2) The problem can perfectly NOT be the SA itself, and the behaviour is a consequence (it's a Sabre....)
3) If you just need the drive and not data assuming everything else works you can do whatever you want from here
4) If you need DATA from the drive you can try to make the drive find what it wants. The problem is how to do with.... SD tool I suppose ? 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 12th, 2014, 4:54 
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fzabkar wrote:
hhddrec wrote:
but is a Maxtor drive,
any way in this case?

I've examined the SA structures of WD and Samsung drives, but I haven't done the same for Maxtors. Sorry.

If you could upload your drive's resources, perhaps I could have a look, or maybe one of the professional members could show you what to do. It might also help to know which tools you have at your disposal.



Thanks fzabkar. thanks for your clever advices.

i have resources from PC3K saved. i¡ll upload it today.

Thaks a nother time.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 12th, 2014, 4:55 
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BlackST wrote:
hhddrec wrote:
Model : Maxtor 6L320S0
Firmware : BCNC1G10
Capacity : 301,68 GB (632 672 208)


1) If critical modules are gone from A , it's another story.
2) The problem can perfectly NOT be the SA itself, and the behaviour is a consequence (it's a Sabre....)
3) If you just need the drive and not data assuming everything else works you can do whatever you want from here
4) If you need DATA from the drive you can try to make the drive find what it wants. The problem is how to do with.... SD tool I suppose ? 8)




Hi BLackST!

Thaks for your support.

I need data from HDD, i have access to copy3 of SA drive, ussing Pc3K, any way to start HD from Copy0 to get acess to data.

Any help is welcomed


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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
PostPosted: June 12th, 2014, 5:10 
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I uploaded PC3K saved FW copy.

CAn you take a look?

http://files.hddguru.com/download/PC-30 ... _Copy3.rar

thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
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If it is SA-C it is quite useless for data recovery purpose...

You have to kickstart the drive and not let it start from C, assuming it can actually read / work .


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 Post subject: Re: Any Way to Repair bad secs on SA
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BlackST wrote:
If it is SA-C it is quite useless for data recovery purpose...

You have to kickstart the drive and not let it start from C, assuming it can actually read / work .



Hi blackSt thanks for your help.

but i can only start from copy C.
there is any other way¿
thanks for your help


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