Linux based cloning issue

[athena]

I am using hddsuperclone and have found it most advanced as compared to other available tools.
I cant afford full version currently. However for following case linux as OS is not working so hddsuperclone is also not working.

I am trying to clone a 16GB pen drive which is in failing state .It gets detected but cloning (Dos based ) stops after few MB. I tried reverse as well but it also stops after 700mb.
Strangely linux is supposed to be best os for such work. In this case hddsuperclone and ubuntu does not boot itself.
Linux or cloning software should ideally ignore file system and should not try to mount file system which may result in trouble like in windows.
Here I could clone using mere outdated dos but latest OS failed to do this task.
Maximus is there any updated build coming up to overcome this issue ? Will this issue get resolved in paid version ?
here is snapshot of errors.

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[lcoughey]

With the log, can you not image until it goes stupid, Stop imaging, Remove and reconnect the flash drive, Restart imaging where you left off and repeat until you get a full image of the flash drive?

Yes, this will be very time consuming. But, that is the price you pay for free.

[maximus]

First and foremost, if the data is worth paying for, consult a data recovery professional that can deal with flash. I know you said you can’t afford the Pro version of HDDSuperClone, but what is it worth to the owner of the flash drive (the client)? If the data is important, then it should go to a pro. But if it is not worth spending much if any money, then maybe we could try some DIY. I will say that I am doubtful for any sort of good DIY recovery, given the circumstances.

From what I have read, I am assuming that when the drive is plugged into Linux, it locks up the system and is not readable. Normal Linux releases will still try to mount the drive, unless you have auto mounting turned off. The live CD version of HDDLive should have auto mounting turned off. But that may not be enough. Even with auto mounting turned off, Linux will still try to read some areas of the drive when connected. That could cause it to lock up.

I am looking for real case USB testing with the Pro version. If you are willing to try some things, and report exact steps and results, I may be willing to give a free short term license. But understand that I may not respond quickly, so it may take some time to work things out. If interested, PM me and we will discuss it further.

[athena]

Thanks all for replies ,
lcoughey I have already done that which is no more working, somehow cloning program should jump troubled sectors and continue cloning. Here we can try different jump sizes depending upon damaged area. .Being a data recovery professional I have done so many similar cases in the past with great success.
I own pro version of infamous and dead HD Duplicator as well (https://forum.hddguru.com/viewtopic.php ... 0&start=20) ,besides now outdated prosoft engineering media tools (this is from the era of floppies)
I have got success with dos based tools than even linux ( some of the forensic cloning tools modify dos not to mount /alter a byte )

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[lcoughey]

It is likely a bigger issue than a few bad blocks, which is causing the controller to go stupid.

If you are unable to get it with the software options available, I'd be interested in giving it a try the tools I have available at a discounted rate. You can PM me if you want to discuss.

[athena]

It is likely a bigger issue than a few bad blocks, which is causing the controller to go stupid.

If you are unable to get it with the software options available, I'd be interested in giving it a try the tools I have available at a discounted rate. You can PM me if you want to discuss.

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Yes you are right all together different approach will be needed for this case. PM sent .
Thanks a lot.

[athena]

Thanks to maximus for making available pro licence of hddsuperclone.
I have completed cloning with flying colours .
In forward cloning I have cloned as much as possible sectors till 14.35GB , rest of the sectors I have done through reverse cloning.
To my surprise 16GB FAT32 was fully accessible with some missing folders. But recovering file system showed those as well.
Overall nearly 90% + Data recovered from failed pen drive without chip off.
I am sure hddsuperclone is the only professional choice for disk cloning in D.R. envirnoment. Cost $200 is very much reasonable considering it the hardware alternate (deepspar ) is too costly.
If anyone keen to see cloning demo live then I can give remote access , though I dont know how to do that in linux.
pls. consult maximus directly for any technical queries.

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[maximus]

I have a couple things to say on this. First, from the logs I have received, this recovery was done using the free version SCSI passthrough, so the Pro version is not relevant to this recovery at this time. I blame myself for not being more clear in communication. Second, it is becoming more and more clear to me that I really need to create some example style instructions. The user manual gives definitions of all the features and settings, but does not give instruction on how to use them.

[LarrySabo]

I really need to create some example style instructions. The user manual gives definitions of all the features and settings, but does not give instruction on how to use them.

The manual is rather overwhelming. I would think two or three videos of a recovery, going from the simplest to more complex, would be more welcoming and helpful than having to absorb so much technical detail and learn so many new terms.

[athena]

I have a couple things to say on this. First, from the logs I have received, this recovery was done using the free version SCSI passthrough, so the Pro version is not relevant to this recovery at this time. I blame myself for not being more clear in communication. Second, it is becoming more and more clear to me that I really need to create some example style instructions. The user manual gives definitions of all the features and settings, but does not give instruction on how to use them.

oh its big mistake from my side. But its great to know even free version has done so much efficient cloning.
I would have gone through manual before cloning process.
I will repeat process in direct usb mode ,I am sure results will be overwhelming,

[dick]

You have done a good job with the impressive Hddsuperclone!

Now you have your data you could also try using a linux version of Dmde and also with the R-studio Emergency disk. Both of the free versions allow you to create a clone image and allow you to browse files.

I would be really interested to see a comparison of the results and I am sure others would too.

[athena]

You have done a good job with the impressive Hddsuperclone!

Now you have your data you could also try using a linux version of Dmde and also with the R-studio Emergency disk. Both of the free versions allow you to create a clone image and allow you to browse files.

I would be really interested to see a comparison of the results and I am sure others would too.

Yes surely once this task is over I will do that.

[lcoughey]

I'd be curious to see if ddrescue works too.

[maximus]

I'd be curious to see if ddrescue works too.

That would depend on if ddrescue can detect when it goes offline, or just marks all sectors as bad in that case.

But I also was under the impression that the device would lock up and not even be readable at all when plugged into Linux. Obviously that is not true if the free version feature of hddsuperclone worked with it.

I am still curious how the actual direct usb mode would work, and also how much more data can actually be recovered. I think more data could be recovered even with the free version with some more work, but likely faster with the pro direct mode.

[Rudra]

hi maximus
I want to know whether raid cloning is possible with hddsuperclone.
I have got a query from a raid customer having 8-10 hard disks. (dont know type ,size and configuration as this is primary discussion)
Customer has accidentally formatted raid.
So we will have to make sector by sector clone of raid volume . Since data is spanned across multiple disks will hddsuper clone will identify raid type and make precise clone ?
In general I want to know any limitations for raid cloning. I have another raid case of a blade server ( 2 disks)
It is affected by ransomware and I want to clone server sector by sector on either attached sas /sata or external usb disk.

[athena]

results are out guys , I have tested USB direct technique and have sent logs to maximus. He will be in a better position to comment.
Since usb direct seems to new approach than traditional cloning softwares , hddsuperclone might emerge as only such software for usb media.

[maximus]

hi maximus
I want to know whether raid cloning is possible with hddsuperclone.
I have got a query from a raid customer having 8-10 hard disks. (dont know type ,size and configuration as this is primary discussion)
Customer has accidentally formatted raid.
So we will have to make sector by sector clone of raid volume . Since data is spanned across multiple disks will hddsuper clone will identify raid type and make precise clone ?
In general I want to know any limitations for raid cloning. I have another raid case of a blade server ( 2 disks)
It is affected by ransomware and I want to clone server sector by sector on either attached sas /sata or external usb disk.

First, hddsuperclone is not meant to clone a raid. It is meant to clone individual disks. You could use it to clone/image each disk, and then work with the clones.
Second, you should have started a new topic for this question.

[maximus]

The original recovery using the free scsi passthrough was done using multiple log files, so I had to patch them together to get a visual. Now I also have a log from a partial direct usb mode. Comparing both, I suspect that there are no hard areas that are bad. There are unread (bad) areas from both that are read in the other. I suspect something like a controller issue. I could be wrong, but from what I see I would think this could potentially be a 100% recovery, with enough effort.

[maximus]

The original recovery using the free scsi passthrough was done using multiple log files, so I had to patch them together to get a visual. Now I also have a log from a partial direct usb mode. Comparing both, I suspect that there are no hard areas that are bad. There are unread (bad) areas from both that are read in the other. I suspect something like a controller issue. I could be wrong, but from what I see I would think this could potentially be a 100% recovery, with enough effort.

After working more with merging log files, I do now see there are hard spots that do not read. Providing recovery instructions to continue is slow, as we seem to be in very different time zones with only one communication a day.