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August 9th, 2015, 10:17
Hello,
I have a Seagate ST3000DM001 that clicks several times then stop spinning after it was plugged on USB port all the night.
I guess it's a head issue.
Is it true that only the first 3 characters from the SN are required for head swap to work?
I've read that the FW, PN and Site code must match too!!
Regards,
August 9th, 2015, 14:46
Virtually no criteria.
Pure lottery.
The heads are selected very badly.
Very often, the surface scratches or gashes of in the trash.
August 10th, 2015, 4:00
Dear Tomset,
Thank you for your reply.
What is the solution? should I test heads with the same first 3 characters of the SN? or should I follow the other recommendations (PN/FW/SITE) ?
Thanks in advance.
August 10th, 2015, 5:20
Tomset wrote:Virtually no criteria.
Pure lottery.
The heads are selected very badly.
Very often, the surface scratches or gashes of in the trash.
agreed
just from sticker you can not determine head compatibility
August 10th, 2015, 8:43
Actually you can determine head compatibility from sticker (have to disagree with these guys). That doesn't however mean it will work. DM series heads are just extremely sensitive and often fail during the swap or after the first power on. The issue isn't compatibility, as the heads are always killed and don't even work in the donor afterward.
Here's what I match:
First three of serial (four if possible just to be closer)
Site Code
Part Number
FW (same if possible, one version off usually still works)
Then it may also be helpful to transfer the head adaptives in the ROM code. Sometimes it helps sometimes it doesn't. But plan on doing 3 or 4 head swaps and still possibly not getting much data, these often have damage that's unseen but is enough to keep killing the heads.
August 10th, 2015, 11:53
Model
family
SN
WF
DataCode.
Code PCB.
Code the HSA
Code label Ampl
Typy channel R/W
PreampType:
PowerAsic:
Even if all of this point.
Nor any guarantee that the heads fit.
August 10th, 2015, 16:11
Tomset wrote:Model
family
SN
WF
DataCode.
Code PCB.
Code the HSA
Code label Ampl
Typy channel R/W
PreampType:
PowerAsic:
Even if all of this point.
Nor any guarantee that the heads fit.
You forgot part number, which is the most important one with DM series drives since the model is only generic. If you're not looking at P/N, no wonder you're having issues.
August 10th, 2015, 21:46
data-medics,
No problem,
Each donor is recorded at the expected criteria.
for example.
- Code:
Z1F2RVEN ST3000DM001 1E6166-570 CC45 DM001 Grenada GSG22D-CCD4-BR0N79-CC45 0-5(6) .02 B4 23 100691332 H C3351DUT .00 100687658 C 100681391
Z1F2RH7D ST3000DM001 1CH166-302 CC26 DM001 Grenada GPG17D-CCD2-CB0487-CC26 0-5(6) .01 B4 13 100691332 H C335428M .00 100687658 C 100681391
Z1F3QKQY ST3000DM001 1CH166-501 CC24 DM001 Grenada GPG17D-CCD2-CA0251-CC24 0-5(6) .01 B4 03 100691332 H K338D76P D7EA 00 100687658 C 100681391
Z1F3X2GV ST3000DM001 1E6166-570 SC48 DM001 Grenada GSG22D-CCD4-BR1779-SC48 0-5(6) .01 B4 13 100691332 E C302288A D218.00 100687658 C 100652420
S1D1YLZZ ST1000DM003 9YN162-303 CC4D DM003 Grenada GR753B-CCD4-BJ04AZ-CC4D 0.1(2) .01 B2 13 100665011 E M240G6GF B3A2 15 100664987 a 100652394
With different PN is also compatible across.
But that donors choose not easier.
August 11th, 2015, 4:31
Model
family
SN
WF
DataCode.
Code PCB.
Code the HSA
Code label Ampl
Typy channel R/W
PreampType:
PowerAsic:
Even if all of this point.
Nor any guarantee that the heads fit.
Could you tell how do you choose a donor for head swap ?
August 11th, 2015, 10:44
sosrecup,
The basic method.
I put the PCB of patient on a donor .
If without knocking, there is a chance that the heads fit.
August 11th, 2015, 11:02
Tomset wrote:sosrecup,
The basic method.
I put the PCB of patient on a donor .
If without knocking, there is a chance that the heads fit.
Agree, that's what we do.
August 11th, 2015, 11:07
Tomset , thank you very much for sharing your experience.
August 12th, 2015, 5:54
pcimage wrote:Tomset wrote:sosrecup,
The basic method.
I put the PCB of patient on a donor .
If without knocking, there is a chance that the heads fit.
Agree, that's what we do.
yes we do also same, for DM series we always try to find closest manufactured.
August 14th, 2015, 3:54
Hi,
It is not impossible to get these work with donor heads, but they are very fine tuned, so it takes some tools to get them read...
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