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Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 28th, 2012, 8:22

Hi,

I have a damaged Hitachi 2.5" PCB with a damaged NVRAM chip.

I have an exact match Donor PCB.

How can I programme the Donor NVRAM chip to work with the HDD, as if I understand right, the NVRAM stores a unique adaptive information which obviously is lost )-:

Thanks for your help

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 28th, 2012, 9:14

blackpac wrote: as if I understand right, the NVRAM stores a unique adaptive information which obviously is lost )-:


Who did you tell that ? :mrgreen:

In any case you need dedicated equipment to do that OR / AND the know how to do it , in the worst case it needed to be "rebuilt".

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 28th, 2012, 11:43

I think you are confusing NVRAM with ROM.

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 28th, 2012, 12:02

Thank for the replay :-)

In any case, the whole PCB is damaged (severe water damaged) )-:

What can be done?

is it possible to use the donor PCB without using parts from the old one? if so... what do i need to do to make it work with the HDD?

Thanks again

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 29th, 2012, 4:50

blackpac wrote:
What can be done?


Write the EXACT model of your drive or put a picture of it as a first step. :D

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 29th, 2012, 7:28

BGman wrote:
Write the EXACT model of your drive or put a picture of it as a first step. :D


Good Point :-)

HTS421280H9AT00
P/N - 0A27467
MLC - DA1140
MAR-06

PCB - 0A2680 DA1195_
Attachments
IMG_20120629_121444.jpg
IMG_20120629_121358.jpg

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 29th, 2012, 7:57

Who opened it, any why? :shock:

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 29th, 2012, 8:07

pcimage wrote:Who opened it, any why? :shock:


Data recovery "specialist" that did't know what to do with it :-(

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 29th, 2012, 9:06

Why would that specialist open the drive if the problem was with the pcb?
Perhaps, since you said this drive has suffered water damage, they wanted to check if interior has been affected too?

Anyways, I think that you should give up if there has been water damage. Maybe that "specialist" was not too wrong, and internals are damaged by water. Someone with the right knowledge and equipment must look inside. If interiors are clean, then you must replace pcb and transfer adaptives from one board to the other.

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 29th, 2012, 9:24

The problem is that the PCB is gone, is there a way to do it without the adaptives?
can the adaptives be recreated somehow?

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 29th, 2012, 9:33

blackpac wrote:The problem is that the PCB is gone, is there a way to do it without the adaptives?
can the adaptives be recreated somehow?


Is possible, but is much more complicated with 2.5" models. You need to make sure this gets handled by somebody who actually knows how to handle this case.

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 29th, 2012, 13:10

blackpac wrote:The problem is that the PCB is gone, is there a way to do it without the adaptives?
can the adaptives be recreated somehow?


For me, yes. P.S. I love this "ADAPTIVE", "UNIQUE" , "UNIQUE, ADAPTIVE" definition.

O tempora, o mores.... :mrgreen:

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

June 30th, 2012, 16:46

BlackST means that there is no adaptive data in the NVRAM under consideration. This is the way he laughs at you....

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

July 2nd, 2012, 17:20

BGman wrote:BlackST means that there is no adaptive data in the NVRAM under consideration. This is the way he laughs at you....


I didn't get the joke but thanks for trying (-:

Can you please tell me what can be done? can I use only the donor PCB to make the drive work?
if so.. What do I need and how do I do it?

Thanks

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

July 3rd, 2012, 1:40

Yes. Study how exactly the firmware of hitachi/ibm work and what is expected to find in that chip. Then program the chip. Simple. Or send the stuff to someone who will analyze the disk and do it for you. Or find 1 in 100 pcb that work. Or...

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

July 4th, 2012, 3:21

BlackST wrote:Yes. Study how exactly the firmware of hitachi/ibm work and what is expected to find in that chip. Then program the chip. Simple. ..


Another joke or mockery... :(

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

July 4th, 2012, 6:03

No it's not a joke. It's exactly how it works. I am not going to explain a detailed structure of the FW including what's in NVRAM anyway.

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

July 4th, 2012, 6:23

BGman & BlackST

I noticed the following:

BGman Joined: September 30th, 2005 Posts: 347
BlackST Joined: July 18th, 2006, Posts: 6125

Which in Simple Math BlackST posts are 1/10 x 2 of BGman more or less, considering Registration Date Diff.

Well, in my point of view, no need to explain or talk more about it, Statistics does it .

Thank you

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

July 4th, 2012, 6:59

Quantity ≠ Quality

Re: Hitachi PCB swap - Damaged NVRAM

July 4th, 2012, 7:11

Nick_CT wrote:Quantity ≠ Quality



Well, Based on MATH, i can tell you Nick that:

When you do a lot of QUANTITY work, one day you may/may not choose the Quality side

BUT

You cannot start with Quality without passing through Quantity..... Am i right? hehehh
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