Donor Match Possible - WD3200BMVV-11A1CS0

[Amarbir[CDR-Labs]]

Hello Folks ,
Have This Patient HDD Western Digital USB 2.0 .MDL WD3200BMVV-11A1CS0 , Date : 19 Feb 2010 , DCM :HHNTJBBB , Country : Thailand .My First Question is That What Specifies The Family in This In The MDL Number Is This A1 or Is It A1C .Secondly i Had Ordered a HDD Long Time Ago When i Was Not Into Head Swaps Etc So i Like To Complete This Case .Currently i Have 3 Donors And PC3K If Any One of You Like To Ask a Specific Question .Can You Folks Please Suggest The Best Donor From These 3 I Have [ Or Are All of These useless For This Case ] .

Donor 1 :
MDL : WD3200BMVV-11A1PS0 " This Has a P Instead of a C As Patient "
Date : 20 OCT 2009
DCM : HANTJBNB
Country : Thailand

Donor 2 :
MD3200BMVV-11A1PS0 "This Too is P Instead Of C As Patient "
Date : 16 Sept 2009
DCM : DANT2BBB
Country : Thailand

Donor 3 : " seems like a useless drive after i checked "

PS : Also i should be checking the physical headmap + Microjogs And Preamp Manufacturer + Revision .Can Someone Tell Me Where can i find preamp vendor + revision details in pc3k or any other tool .

[LarrySabo]

Neither.

DonorDrive.com's criteria:

Head Stack Assembly Exchange Part Requirements

1. First part of model number and 2 or 3 middle characters of the second part. Example: WD6400AAKS-65A7B0, WD10TMVW-11ZSMS1
2. Country of Manufacturer. Example: Product of Malaysia or Made in Thailand
3. DCMs 5th character. Try matching 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th character if possible. Example: EANNHV2MA
4. Closest date of manufacture possible. Preferably within 3 months.

For family names, see this HDDOracle article.

DFL-FRP WD provides the preamp and other details you asked about; see the Get Details results.

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xxA1Cxx = Mariner family
xxA1Pxx = Venus family

[Amarbir[CDR-Labs]]

Hello Mr Larry / Respected Sean,
Happy New Year In Advance To You .Thanks For The Inputs .I Disassembled The Drive As i Wanted To See What Are The Damages Inside .The Head Seems To Be Outside The RAMP On The Platter Very Close To It .Well i Though Might Be The Company i Used To Give My Cases did Not Check This .I Tried To Get The Heads Off The Platter On The RAMP .The Heads Would Not Go on The RAMP .Hence i Removed The Ramp And Got The Heads Off The Platters .Seems Head No 1 And 3 Are Not even There in The stack The Actual Black Head Seems To Be Missing/Broken .One of It Is From The Top Side Platter And i Cannot See it Anywhere .Might Be Once i Disassemble The Entire Drive Other Then Platters i Could See Those Two Tiny Heads Somewhere .According To Me There is a Risk Factor in This Drive As Might Be If i Arrange New Head Stack And At Least one of those heads are stuck on the platter [ Its Gona Be Fireworks ] . Hence i Have Decided To Let Go off This Case .

Ps : Sean And Mr Larry - I Replaced a Head Stack for a Seagate 5400.6 2.5" Today .The New Heads Are Reading All Platter Surface But Head 0 is Reading it Very Slow .I Reversed Cloned Head 3 From 100% To 25% And Stopped ,Then i Reversed Cloned Head No 2 But i Stopped Even Before Reaching 25% .Then i did Same For head 1 And Now i Am Reverse Cloning Head No 0 .Head No 0 Seems To Be Slow Read .Can The Head Screw Torgue Make Any difference .Will Adapting Patient ROM For Donor Head Make a Vast Improvement [ As i Was Able To Make The HDD Detect In The Very First Attempt ] . Mr Larry I Do Not Trust DFL Tool For ROM Adaptation At All .Have You Tried It Ever .Sean Sir Can You Explain Procedure of ROM Adaptation To New Head Stack in Brief in PC3k .

[LarrySabo]

If 2 sliders are missing, I'd say it's game over for that drive (for me, anyway). Some drives, you can remove and inspect/clean platters without worrying about platter rotational alignment but lots of luck with that. Chances are the platters are scored by the bare gimbals (to which the sliders are normally attached).

Re. the Seagate 5400.6, I doubt the torque of the HSA top screw makes any difference, unless it's really loose. I have no experience doing Seagates head swaps but transferring adaptives should be routine. DFL-WD adaptive ROM creation works fine for me, but it fails to at writing the adapted ROM back. For that I have to use an external programmer.

[Amarbir[CDR-Labs]]

If 2 sliders are missing, I'd say it's game over for that drive (for me, anyway). Some drives, you can remove and inspect/clean platters without worrying about platter rotational alignment but lots of luck with that. Chances are the platters are scored by the bare gimbals (to which the sliders are normally attached).

Re. the Seagate 5400.6, I doubt the torque of the HSA top screw makes any difference, unless it's really loose. I have no experience doing Seagates head swaps but transferring adaptives should be routine. DFL-WD adaptive ROM creation works fine for me, but it fails to at writing the adapted ROM back. For that I have to use an external programmer.

Mr Larry,
The Top Platter Surface i Inspected [ Seemed OK ] . Well Torgue Played a Role in Western Digital Old Drives .Thanks For Heads-up on Seagate [ Even i Though So ] . I Will Just Let This Drive Image As Much I Can With This Condition [ Then i Will Do a Head Adaptives Port From Donor To Patient ROM ] .Are Importing CAP ,RAP Etc Etc Also Important ?

[northwind]

Hello Folks ,
Have This Patient HDD Western Digital USB 2.0 .MDL WD3200BMVV-11A1CS0 , Date : 19 Feb 2010 , DCM :HHNTJBBB , Country : Thailand .My First Question is That What Specifies The Family in This In The MDL Number Is This A1 or Is It A1C .Secondly i Had Ordered a HDD Long Time Ago When i Was Not Into Head Swaps Etc So i Like To Complete This Case .Currently i Have 3 Donors And PC3K If Any One of You Like To Ask a Specific Question .Can You Folks Please Suggest The Best Donor From These 3 I Have [ Or Are All of These useless For This Case ] .

Donor 1 :
MDL : WD3200BMVV-11A1PS0 " This Has a P Instead of a C As Patient "
Date : 20 OCT 2009
DCM : HANTJBNB
Country : Thailand

Donor 2 :
MD3200BMVV-11A1PS0 "This Too is P Instead Of C As Patient "
Date : 16 Sept 2009
DCM : DANT2BBB
Country : Thailand

Donor 3 : " seems like a useless drive after i checked "

PS : Also i should be checking the physical headmap + Microjogs And Preamp Manufacturer + Revision .Can Someone Tell Me Where can i find preamp vendor + revision details in pc3k or any other tool .

xxA1Cxx = Mariner family
xxA1Pxx = Venus family

^^ What he said.
However, I have managed to make Venus work on a Mariner. It needs same head map and a little tweaking.

DonorDrive.com's criteria:

Head Stack Assembly Exchange Part Requirements

1. First part of model number and 2 or 3 middle characters of the second part. Example: WD6400AAKS-65A7B0, WD10TMVW-11ZSMS1
2. Country of Manufacturer. Example: Product of Malaysia or Made in Thailand
3. DCMs 5th character. Try matching 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th character if possible. Example: EANNHV2MA
4. Closest date of manufacture possible. Preferably within 3 months.

This guide is obsolete and most of it is needless, at least for modern drives.

Hello Mr Larry / Respected Sean,
Happy New Year In Advance To You .Thanks For The Inputs .I Disassembled The Drive As i Wanted To See What Are The Damages Inside .The Head Seems To Be Outside The RAMP On The Platter Very Close To It .Well i Though Might Be The Company i Used To Give My Cases did Not Check This .I Tried To Get The Heads Off The Platter On The RAMP .The Heads Would Not Go on The RAMP .Hence i Removed The Ramp And Got The Heads Off The Platters .Seems Head No 1 And 3 Are Not even There in The stack The Actual Black Head Seems To Be Missing/Broken .One of It Is From The Top Side Platter And i Cannot See it Anywhere .Might Be Once i Disassemble The Entire Drive Other Then Platters i Could See Those Two Tiny Heads Somewhere .According To Me There is a Risk Factor in This Drive As Might Be If i Arrange New Head Stack And At Least one of those heads are stuck on the platter [ Its Gona Be Fireworks ] . Hence i Have Decided To Let Go off This Case .

This is typical. Look for the missing sliders on the bottom side of the top lid, on the yellow rubber or on the small filter.

This drive could have chances but it is not going to be easy.

[digisupport]

3 out of 4 sliders "hanging out" in the top lid.

[data-medics]

DonorDrive.com's criteria:

Head Stack Assembly Exchange Part Requirements

1. First part of model number and 2 or 3 middle characters of the second part. Example: WD6400AAKS-65A7B0, WD10TMVW-11ZSMS1
2. Country of Manufacturer. Example: Product of Malaysia or Made in Thailand
3. DCMs 5th character. Try matching 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th character if possible. Example: EANNHV2MA
4. Closest date of manufacture possible. Preferably within 3 months.

This guide is obsolete and most of it is needless, at least for modern drives.

Are you referring to using the Preamp vendor/version number along with micro jogs as pulled by PC-3000? I still match most of this other stuff Larry mentioned (though the DCM part isn't 100% accurate) and I have almost perfect success matching heads.

[northwind]

DonorDrive.com's criteria:

Head Stack Assembly Exchange Part Requirements

1. First part of model number and 2 or 3 middle characters of the second part. Example: WD6400AAKS-65A7B0, WD10TMVW-11ZSMS1
2. Country of Manufacturer. Example: Product of Malaysia or Made in Thailand
3. DCMs 5th character. Try matching 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th character if possible. Example: EANNHV2MA
4. Closest date of manufacture possible. Preferably within 3 months.

This guide is obsolete and most of it is needless, at least for modern drives.

Are you referring to using the Preamp vendor/version number along with micro jogs as pulled by PC-3000? I still match most of this other stuff Larry mentioned (though the DCM part isn't 100% accurate) and I have almost perfect success matching heads.

The DCM is only important in *some* families (older ones, like pre-ROYL and newer ones like Dragon). On newer ones you can sometimes bypass it, but on older ones it determines the head type. On other families like Tornado, Sadle, Dragfly etc it's totally irrelevant.
Country is totally irrelevant.
Date is totally irrelevant.

To me, I only need Compatible Family and head map.

[unknown]

The DCM is only important in *some* families (older ones, like pre-ROYL and newer ones like Dragon). On newer ones you can sometimes bypass it, but on older ones it determines the head type. On other families like Tornado, Sadle, Dragfly etc it's totally irrelevant.
Country is totally irrelevant.
Date is totally irrelevant.

To me, I only need Compatible Family and head map.

+1 Northwind

[jermy]

The DCM is only important in *some* families (older ones, like pre-ROYL and newer ones like Dragon). On newer ones you can sometimes bypass it, but on older ones it determines the head type. On other families like Tornado, Sadle, Dragfly etc it's totally irrelevant.
Country is totally irrelevant.
Date is totally irrelevant.

To me, I only need Compatible Family and head map.

+1 Northwind

one thing though, because this info is on a public forum, and most of the time this kind of questions is coming from the end user, and doesn't have a clue what family means or what is it pre-ROYL, not to mention things like head map or microjogs.

that's why if someone is asking this question, the info provided is like this.

[jono-ats]

+3 Northwind