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 Post subject: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 26th, 2016, 10:19 
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Please how can I retrieve the password to an Xbox hard drive? The Xbox will not power on anymore. It is a Seagate ST310014ACE with an ATA password Security level of Maximum. Luckily, I was able to copy the most important stuff on it, but some data remains. I prefer having the User password to unlock it, but will settle with a way to wipe it if that's the only option available. I'm not sure if Master password is changed or not. HDAT2 reports the Master password revision code to be FFFEh, while Hdparm gives it as 65534. Also, Hdparm says enhanced erase is not supported, does that mean it's not possible to secure erase/wipe the drive? Some help would be appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 26th, 2016, 11:09 
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Appreciate the help, I have this item from ebay will it work as TTL adaptor?

What is ST-10 arch? I found out the drive is U series X or UX type, is that similar to U6 and module based or not? So, does master password revision code 65534 mean it was never changed from the default? Good to know it's possible to erase the drive as a last resort.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 26th, 2016, 11:22 
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Appreciate the help, I have a CP2102 USB TTL will that work as an adaptor?

What is ST-10 arch? I found out the drive is U Series X, or UX type, is that similar to U6 and module based or not? So, does master password revision code 65534 mean it's not changed from manufacturer default then? Good to know it's still possible to secure erase as a last resort.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 26th, 2016, 13:41 
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Ok, I got a couple 7200.10 drives but this locked one is definitely not of that kind.

I hope it is module based. But my CP2102 has a jumper on the TXC and RXC pins, is it best to leave that in there? And the cable is too short to reach any USB ports on my desktop, any idea what to do here?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 26th, 2016, 17:06 
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If you mean TXD and RXD, then it sounds like the jumper is for loopback testing. If so, then it should be removed for normal operation.

As for the master password revision code, the fact that it remains at its default setting is inconclusive. AIUI, it is simply intended to be used by a system administrator to enable him to keep track of a workgroup. For example, he may assign a value of 0x0001 to workgroup #1, 0x0002 to workgroup #2, etc. Each workgroup could then have a different master password.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 26th, 2016, 20:28 
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these drives (UX type) are supported by the program zu


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 26th, 2016, 22:10 
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On my CP2102 the pins are called TXC and RXC. Is this the right TTL adaptor to use? I still did not find a way for the cable to reach any USB port. I need a longer USB extension cord, but I do not have one for now. So, I tried a SATA/IDE to USB adapter, here is a link to it:

http://www.vantecusa.com/en/product/view_detail/393

But this does not work. I removed the jumper, and plugged in the wires like the guide said, then a green LED for data lit on the CP2102. Next, I installed the v6.7 drivers from Silicon Labs website. HyperTerminal gives me a white screen. I tried all the different settings like Hardware, none, and Xon/Xoff too.

As for U6dle, version 1.11 works better than 1.20, but neither are able to output any .BIN file. My CP2102 defaults to COM3 instead of COM1 so I had to use /c3 in the command. U6dle 1.11 scans the COM port then says "No drive attached. Aborted!" While 1.20 tells me "Error opening input file 10.bin."

I think it's only possible to do this from the motherboard's IDE and power ports. One thing I noticed is once the drive powered on the green LED for data on the CP2102 shuts off. I'm sure this has something to do with it not working via the SATA/IDE to USB adapter. I'm out of town first thing tomorrow and back on Tuesday, so cannot get a USB extension cable until then.

Does this zu program support a locked drive at Maximum security level? Will it only remove password or reveal it as well?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 27th, 2016, 1:48 
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On my CP2102 those pins are called TXC and RXC. Is this the right TTL adaptor? I still did not find a way for the cable to reach any USB port. I need a longer USB extension cord, but I do not have one for now. So, I tried a SATA/IDE to USB adapter, it's a Vantec NexStar CB-ISATACR.

But it does not work. I removed the jumper, and plugged in the wires like the guide said, then a green LED for data lit on the CP2102. Next, I installed the v6.7 drivers from Silicon Labs website. HyperTerminal gives me a white screen. I tried all the different settings like Hardware, none, and Xon/Xoff too.

As for U6dle, version 1.11 works best for me, but neither is able to output a .BIN file. First off, my CP2102 defaults to COM3, so I had to change the command to /c3 instead. With 1.11, it scans the COM port, but then gives me a "No drive attached. Aborted!" message. And 1.20, tells me "Error opening input file 10.bin"

I think this can only be done via the motherboard's IDE and power ports. I read that if master password revision code is FFFE then it means it is unchanged. I'm out of town until Tuesday, and cannot get a USB extension cable to try again.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 27th, 2016, 4:04 
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ZU - ATA Password Unlock Tool for Several Drives:
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=166

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
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klerg wrote:
On my CP2102 those pins are called TXC and RXC.

https://www.cpmspectrepi.uk/raspberry_p ... 2.2C_6-pin

It appears that the "C" should be a "D", ie Transmit Data and Receive Data. If you install the loopback jumper, then you should see every keystroke being echoed in HyperTerminal. You must get this working before you can proceed.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 28th, 2016, 0:53 
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fzabkar wrote:
ZU - ATA Password Unlock Tool for Several Drives:
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=166


Will try this next week. That link says Seagate UX drives need serial flash, what's that mean? I think this can only remove password, but I prefer to retrieve it if at all possible. Does this wipe the data too?

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If you install the loopback jumper, then you should see every keystroke being echoed in HyperTerminal. You must get this working before you can proceed.


If I put the jumper on TXC and RXC pins then it's not possible to have any wires in them, but the U6 guide tells me to do otherwise unless I'm mistaken. Hyperterminal does nothing when I press any keys. My CP2102 looks almost identical to the "Taylor Roco" you linked to.

I have the ground from the TTL adaptor plugged into the ground that is mentioned in the U6 guide.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 28th, 2016, 17:59 
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That link says that ZU supports those Seagate UX drives which have serial flash memory chips on the PCB.

The loopback jumper is just for testing purposes. You first need to determine whether your software can communicate with the adapter before you go any further. The jumper simply allows the adapter to send data back to itself.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 29th, 2016, 23:31 
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fzabkar wrote:
That link says that ZU supports those Seagate UX drives which have serial flash memory chips on the PCB.


I see, but how to confirm that this drive 10.2 GB ST310014ACE has serial flash memory chips? There are pictures of the PCB on ebay and elsewhere is it possible to determine anything from that?

fzabkar wrote:
The loopback jumper is just for testing purposes. You first need to determine whether your software can communicate with the adapter before you go any further. The jumper simply allows the adapter to send data back to itself.


I need to get a longer USB extension cord early next week to connect the CP2102 to the drive internally and bypass this SATA/IDE to USB adapter.

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If you are still having problems removing/retrieving the password from the drive I can do that for you for a small fee + shipping costs to/from Portugal...

I can recover the password not just remove it for your drive.

http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=76


Appreciate the offer, but I need try a few more things first before going ahead with this. The website seagateunlock.com states to flash firmware, even the same version, and that should get rid of the password. Of course, I can't find any firmware for this drive.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 30th, 2016, 1:02 
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You don't need to connect the adapter to your drive in order to perform a loopback test of the adapter.

Serial flash memory will be implemented as an 8-pin chip. Just Google its markings.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
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fzabkar wrote:
You don't need to connect the adapter to your drive in order to perform a loopback test of the adapter.


Ok, so I connect jumper back on TXC and RXD pins, plug my CP2102 in USB, then how do I get HyperTerminal to echo back what I type?

fzabkar wrote:
Serial flash memory will be implemented as an 8-pin chip. Just Google its markings.


I think it has an 8-pin chip on the lower right corner of the PCB, will google the markings when I get home late tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 31st, 2016, 2:20 
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klerg wrote:
Ok, so I connect jumper back on TXC and RXD pins, plug my CP2102 in USB, then how do I get HyperTerminal to echo back what I type?

Don't worry about setting the baud rate, parity, stop bits, etc. Just choose the correct COM port and start typing.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
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fzabkar wrote:
Don't worry about setting the baud rate, parity, stop bits, etc. Just choose the correct COM port and start typing.


Alright, what should happen as I start typing? Also, do I use a jumper block or wire to link TXC and RXC pins together?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: May 31st, 2016, 4:44 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loopback# ... interfaces

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
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fzabkar wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loopback#Serial_interfaces


That link lead me to the right direction. I plugged in a jumper wire from TXC to RXC, and following trishtech.com, used Putty to test for keyboard output, and it worked! It showed what I typed in the Putty session. So I know my CP2102 is not bad. I google'd the markings on the 8-pin chip which is FDFS2P102A, and it is described as an "Integrated P-Channel MOSFET and Schottky Diode." Is that anything like a serial flash memory chip? I have not picked up a longer USB extension cord yet, will definitely get one by this weekend for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate hard drive locked
PostPosted: June 3rd, 2016, 22:43 
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If I find out the ATA password, will hard drive remained locked when p/w is entered at boot time?


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