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 Post subject: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 10th, 2016, 15:16 
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Being a stupid idiot that I am sometimes , I moved a root folder of around 600GB to the recycle bin on a (QNAP) NAS . At the time I was not too concerned and was under the impression that the recycle bin contents could be restored . At this time I also had Back Up HDD's in the post

Qnap had remotely accessed my network , and had found that the recycle bin contents were corrupted and advised me to contact a data recovery firm/service . I am by no means in a position to afford a data recovery service which is likely to cost £300/$400 but I am neither a data recovery specialist

I may be an idiot at times but , what I had learned during my tech education is that data is quite tough to completely delete . We actually had a data recovery class a few times which involved restoring deleted data using a software that you are all probrably aware of 'Autopsy' . So I have witnessed and do Feel as though all my data is not yet completely lost

However this is a significantly more serious amount of recovery 600GB is a lot of data , I am slighly frigthened that I learn how to recover but only to find out that the recovery is going to take hundreds of hours . On another thread opened at QNAP forums , there is a rather vague guide for using Photorec along with comments , one comment reads that it took him/her 20Days to recover 3GB of data . So in theory I am guessing that potentially this data recovery could take hundreds if not thousands of days to recover the data :shock: :shock: :shock:

Does this seem like a reasonable time for data recovery ? Or perhaps there is better faster softwares out there for data recovery ?


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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 10th, 2016, 19:30 
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Hello,

the question is not the time it takes but the bare possibility of fully recovering it.
The FS is probably Ext3 or Ext4, which has a habit of wiping inodes when u delete a file. It means that the info u need to locate your files is probably gone.
If it is the case, you can go for a Raw recovery, however Ext file systems are somewhat special from that perspective too, i am not sure which sw tool can handle it properly. I wrote my tool to address the issue, it works pretty nicely and i can even recover fragmented files in raw mode with some limitations.

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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 10th, 2016, 20:26 
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Hi Pepe

Thanks for the reply - Yes the FS is either Ext3 or Ext4, it is a unix style NAS OS

sorry if I am sounding stupid again but please explain:
pepe wrote:
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The FS is probably Ext3 or Ext4, which has a habit of wiping inodes when u delete a file. It means that the info u need to locate your files is probably gone.



What info would be needed that is probrably wiped?

pepe wrote:

If it is the case, you can go for a Raw recovery, however Ext file systems are somewhat special from that perspective too, i am not sure which sw tool can handle it properly. I wrote my tool to address the issue, it works pretty nicely and i can even recover fragmented files in raw mode with some limitations.


What do you mean by raw recovery ?

seems like there is a lot of recovery programs out there already , good luck with your software


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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 11th, 2016, 2:48 
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@90Ninety

If you leave the recycle bin option this means your files are there, BUT HIDDEN you cannot see it
you will have to access it outside the Box and copy it somewhere else and connect your drives back.

QNAP reports an error coz its 600GB
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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 11th, 2016, 6:47 
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einstein9 wrote:
@90Ninety

If you leave the recycle bin option this means your files are there, BUT HIDDEN you cannot see it
you will have to access it outside the Box and copy it somewhere else and connect your drives back.

QNAP reports an error coz its 600GB
:wink:



That's what I initially thought , so did QNAP , I had two of their engineers on my network to try to recover via FTP but , they could not help the FTP client was just crashing every time . THey actually suggested I contact a data recovery company


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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 4:31 
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Mainly FTP will access SHARED FOLDERS, not Hidden System partitions/files

contact any Pro. DR close to your GALAXY

good luck

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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 5:01 
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einstein9 wrote:
contact any Pro. DR close to your GALAXY

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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 5:34 
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jermy wrote:
einstein9 wrote:
contact any Pro. DR close to your GALAXY

:lol:



Pfft , they cost $300+ , I won't be able to justify the cost . Seems strange that I am in a HDD guru forum, yet no one can advise me on how to recover myself

There are around 20 different recovery softwares out there , surely one must be suitable for me ?


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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 6:44 
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einstein9 wrote:

contact any Pro. DR close to your GALAXY

good luck


No , they are light-years outside of my budget


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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
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jermy wrote:
einstein9 wrote:
contact any Pro. DR close to your GALAXY

:lol:


Their price is astronomical ...............


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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 8:01 
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What is your budget?

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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 8:22 
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90Ninety wrote:
jermy wrote:
einstein9 wrote:
contact any Pro. DR close to your GALAXY

:lol:


Their price is astronomical ...............


I used to help some "Strangers" with "less than 10 posts" on this forum because i thought they are really desperate and really cannot afford the cost
specially when it comes to personal data.

After some time i found that THOSE same people ("Strangers" with "less than 10 posts") are running a DR Biz. and REALLY DON`T WANT TO PAY
and looking for FREE REMOTE RAID SERVICE (and of course charge their clients HIGH "astronomical"

the problem is that they change their Nicknames or maybe create new Identity blah blah but its always the same person (sadly i got to know them from others "their friends"

thats why As my friend here "labtech" asked, what is ur Budget??

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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 8:45 
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einstein9 wrote:
90Ninety wrote:
jermy wrote:
einstein9 wrote:
contact any Pro. DR close to your GALAXY

:lol:


Their price is astronomical ...............


I used to help some "Strangers" with "less than 10 posts" on this forum because i thought they are really desperate and really cannot afford the cost
specially when it comes to personal data.

After some time i found that THOSE same people ("Strangers" with "less than 10 posts") are running a DR Biz. and REALLY DON`T WANT TO PAY
and looking for FREE REMOTE RAID SERVICE (and of course charge their clients HIGH "astronomical"

the problem is that they change their Nicknames or maybe create new Identity blah blah but its always the same person (sadly i got to know them from others "their friends"

thats why As my friend here "labtech" asked, what is ur Budget??


Sorry if I came across that way though , that a very valid concern and I did not initially see it that way , yet I appreciate your point of view now .

Thinking about it I can now understand your perspective - I am also very skeptical about what people say in forums also . I know this is a pretty dark industry with many dodgy unfinished projects costing tax payers , lying salesmen and dodgy developers . I am new to the IT industry myself as a support techie so from experience I would rather learn how to do something than pay someone to do something . Don't techies usually learn at home or in their own time ?

I don't expect to be spoon fed information and I know that's what it can look like and for that I am sorry but , I don't really know where to turn here . I am bordering on the idea of cutting my losses with my data , though on the other hand I have plenty of time and patience with fundamental tech knowledge

To give you an idea my most important data is probably the receipts I have scanned , my Passwords/accounts , my ISO back ups ( support software and games ), lists of my game/ licence keys ,

My budget is real tight , though I am willing to pay for a decent software which can achieve data recovery , which is good for beginners so around £50~100


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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 10:45 
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90Ninety wrote:
I am by no means in a position to afford a data recovery service which is likely to cost £300/$400 but I am neither a data recovery specialist

To be honest, $400 would be a steal for any RAID 5 data recovery. Anyone who is offering such a low rate isn't likely a data recovery professional, IMHO.

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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 11:09 
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lcoughey wrote:
90Ninety wrote:
I am by no means in a position to afford a data recovery service which is likely to cost £300/$400 but I am neither a data recovery specialist

To be honest, $400 would be a steal for any RAID 5 data recovery. Anyone who is offering such a low rate isn't likely a data recovery professional, IMHO.


Thats fine for business users where data costs money but, this is a home NAS with sentimental data and personal data . I am led to believe there are softwares out there that allow the home user to do it themselves

While I am a IT support for a living , this is a personal NAS believe it or not

I am merely asking what softwares are the best , should I provide a list as I have found a plethora of options , all claiming to recover deleted data on EXT raid configurations ?


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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 11:14 
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lcoughey wrote:
90Ninety wrote:
I am by no means in a position to afford a data recovery service which is likely to cost £300/$400 but I am neither a data recovery specialist

To be honest, $400 would be a steal for any RAID 5 data recovery. Anyone who is offering such a low rate isn't likely a data recovery professional, IMHO.


My thoughts exactly. Especially for a case that's not going to be a straight forward recovery.

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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 11:57 
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data-medics wrote:
lcoughey wrote:
90Ninety wrote:
I am by no means in a position to afford a data recovery service which is likely to cost £300/$400 but I am neither a data recovery specialist

To be honest, $400 would be a steal for any RAID 5 data recovery. Anyone who is offering such a low rate isn't likely a data recovery professional, IMHO.


My thoughts exactly. Especially for a case that's not going to be a straight forward recovery.


What is not straight forward about it ?


There are many software programs out there that claim to recover deleted files in raid 5 Ext Environments

I am asking what softwares are most legit ( best support and usability ) and the length of time it would take - not the price of a professional . I have learned a lot of basic IT stuff , i'm confident I could figure it out .

We used Autospy to recover deleted files in an IT lesson at college before , so I know its possible


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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
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If somebody asked for this type of job more than $400 it doesn't mean he is pro. And very often pro doesn't mean that this person is a good person.

I could do this case for $400.


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PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 16:31 
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drHDD wrote:
If somebody asked for this type of job more than $400 it doesn't mean he is pro. And very often pro doesn't mean that this person is a good person.

I could do this case for $400.


It's funny that you talk so much about what a "pro" is, yet you never mention a company that you represent. Leads me to suspect you're either working out of your basement or doing projects for cheap out the back door of a company you work for, all while getting paid an hourly rate at the same time.

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 Post subject: Re: Data Recovery (Deleted folders) for Raid 5 EXT format
PostPosted: December 12th, 2016, 18:58 
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data-medics wrote:
drHDD wrote:
If somebody asked for this type of job more than $400 it doesn't mean he is pro. And very often pro doesn't mean that this person is a good person.

I could do this case for $400.


It's funny that you talk so much about what a "pro" is, yet you never mention a company that you represent. Leads me to suspect you're either working out of your basement or doing projects for cheap out the back door of a company you work for, all while getting paid an hourly rate at the same time.


Wow you make me feel important - I did not feel I was that important until now , well anyway ; I have a full time desk job as a support technician for a training centre called HCPA [url]https//:www.hcpa.info[/url] here in England , its a publicly funded organisation for care and social work , my work mostly involves administering and testing web based services that are outsourced by a software development company . My job also involves helping people including the trainers, and care providers using their computers - pretty basic stuff



However like most techies - we learn in our own time . Until I moved this year I used to have a garage where I would tinker with things , such as watercooling and overclocking .

When I go home , I play around with computers - even today . I recently inherited a QNAP server on Ebay at a very low price . Historically I started initially worked with a friend at a computer repair store on ebay , literally doing hardware repair with a rework station . I met this friend since he sold me an xbox on ebay ( around 2012 I think )which was broken , I managed to fix it within an hour with a heatgun - I initially used that Xbox for around 6 months until it packed up again :o , he then told me he had many more Xboxes , so I worked for him for some time .

However it was not good money so I stated college in 2013 and had purchased around 11 physical old junk machines fixed them up then learned at home about networks , folder shares , some website building, active directory and so forth
I got my most recent job this year actually , they so far are very surprised with my efforts and constantly tell me how helpful and knowledgeable I am but , really I feel that you can never know enough - personally

Anyhow I recently inherited a NAS server and I consolidated all of my media software and personal data and was researching on hosting my own cloud and remote virtual machine , now I ended up putting a lot of my old media files on there including All of my CD/DVD and Game Rips ( I game though FTP ) , including all my different versions of Linux Windows/ISO's and acquired softwares including lots of Software packages with genuine licence keys which I acquired

Now obviously I am pretty gutted but the stuff isn't really worth $£100+ . I am merely just trying to get an impartial opinion on the timescales involved and a recommendation of the softwares to suit my environment

It sounds like you guys have been burned here by some scammers before , am I right ?


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