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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 6th, 2021, 18:16 
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Update:

I got my original pcb board back and my original rom. They did put my original rom on another pcb donor board and the drive does not boot up at all. I do not even think it is allowing power to turn on the drive.

I put my best donor board with a random rom back on the hard drive and get this.

https://ufile.io/45vfe3t3

The drive stays on and sounds great. However, I’m afraid to initialize because I know it will erase my data however, even if I do, I will get an i/o error and it wont do it.



They emailed me back and said they do not have my ROM Dump on file. I guess they do not want to work with me on that.



Please on please let me know what device exactly I can buy to get this ROM dump!!! I will post asap when I download it.



wow. I did not even know PC3000 or MRT Lab could not even fix the problem. What about going around the problem? Can either of these programs help rip the data off the drive RAW?

“Encouraging Sum” I completely and totally understand and respect this. What are we talking here?

I would love to have a healthy ROM Chip on a beautiful new PCB Donor Board.



“Some drives have a feature called Power Up In Standby (PUIS). If this is enabled, then the drive won't spin up until a certain command is issued. PUIS can be disabled with free tools such as HDAT2.”

How do I get this tool and software? Please help me troubleshoot this. I can buy tools and have them shipped to me.



“One other feature that may prevent your drive from spinning up inside a PC is SATA power pin #3. This has now been redefined as the Power Disable pin. However this does not appear to be present in your model.”

Do I need some software or hardware to disable this?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 6th, 2021, 18:48 
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HD-Front

https://ufile.io/lk1a7uhh

HD-Back

https://ufile.io/c3svwk11

Repair – Front

https://ufile.io/ez3jou40

Repair – Back

https://ufile.io/h77bd47a

Granted please note they said that the original rom was too damaged to transfer. They did this as a courtesy. I have another pcb donor board that has supposedly a new rom with my original bios information transferred over to it. However, you can see here the "condition” of the original rom. I am hoping all the information can still be transferred from this rom. Its not beat up too bad right?

Both pcb donor boards; the one with the original rom and the new transferred over with the information rom do not power up the drive at all. Zero, zilch, nada.

I can post photos of the new rom and new board if needed as well however, it looks good I believe. If the information was transferred over properly.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 6:06 
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can't you just upload the photos here? would be a lot more convenient. We are trying to help and you continuously make it hard by this download site thing.
I have to hack my way through all the wrecked dialog windows for all the files, download them, check them individually if they are jpegs as they state, open, etc..
please.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 6:11 
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a sound recording of the disk with a good pcb would be also useful.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 6:34 
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Soldering is fine just a little heavy. Chip doesn't look cooked to me.

I've only seen rom problems cause no spin a handful of times, I'm sceptical. Pepe you have more experience that I do - if it does end up with you drop an update here for us - I'm curious.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 7:23 
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I would add to the list of useful things the terminal log (with the new pcb with the new rom).

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 9:10 
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Also, when I have the donor board and a random bios on the hard drive and I plug it in directly to the motherboard and boot into Ultimate Boot CD. I think it can see the disk everything says: zero, zero, zero, i.e. clusters, size, etc. Not sure if I can enabled or disable PUIS when the drive is in this state. I mean None of the programs can read the drive or do a scan.

If I plug in a new board with original bios information the drive is dead and doesn't even spin up or turn on.

How is this happening, can a corrupt rom leave the drive completely dead and powerless and not even turn on?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 9:10 
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pepe wrote:
can't you just upload the photos here? would be a lot more convenient. We are trying to help and you continuously make it hard by this download site thing.
I have to hack my way through all the wrecked dialog windows for all the files, download them, check them individually if they are jpegs as they state, open, etc..
please.

pepe


I didn't know I could upload photos here, I will definitely do that for you. Thank you.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
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pepe wrote:
a sound recording of the disk with a good pcb would be also useful.

pepe


I can do that. It makes different sounds with different pcb donor boards, I'll make some recordings and post them here. However, with the original bios information its dead as a door nail.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 9:13 
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Lardman wrote:
Soldering is fine just a little heavy. Chip doesn't look cooked to me.

I've only seen rom problems cause no spin a handful of times, I'm sceptical. Pepe you have more experience that I do - if it does end up with you drop an update here for us - I'm curious.


Yea, that was my original bios put on a random board I guess as a favor, they said it would not work. They transferred that bios information to another board and that still doesn't work on my drive. I can post a photo of the new board with transfered bios as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 10:08 
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with the original bios information its dead as a door nail.

a terminal output would shed some light about how much dead it is.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 10:28 
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Hard Drive

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Original Board and Bios before any repairs

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New PCB Donor Board with BIOS transferred over to New Rom

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Sound and Picture of Random Donor Board - 01

https://ufile.io/elb2l658

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State of original BIOS on Random Donor Board not Working

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 10:30 
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I didn't know how to upload .mp3 on here so I used that one site. Sorry. Also here are the windows errors I am getting with: Sound and Picture of Random Donor Board - 01

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 10:32 
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pepe wrote:
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with the original bios information its dead as a door nail.

a terminal output would shed some light about how much dead it is.

pepe


How do I find this out for you? I have a multi meter but I don't really know how to use it. Give me some general information and maybe I can get this info for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 12:52 
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The windows screenshots suggest you have physical access to the drive. It's spinning and initialised you just can't see the logical data.

Download and run the r-studio demo and see if that finds anything.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 13:08 
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Lardman wrote:
The windows screenshots suggest you have physical access to the drive. It's spinning and initialised you just can't see the logical data.

Download and run the r-studio demo and see if that finds anything.


Just did as you requested and this is what I got:

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However, I can't do anything. Whenever I tried to convert to GPT disk before I always got i/o error can't communicate with disk. I don't think windows is properly communicating with the hard drive. This is a random pcb board and bios. However, seeing this drive listed properly in R-Studio is refreshing.

I haven't haven't recently tried to Initialize the Disk by creating a GPT - GUID Partition Table because I know that will erase my data. However, I wonder if that would work now?

What does all this mean?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 13:20 
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When I connect the new pcb donor board with repaired transfer bio I get the windows sound something has connected but the drive does not show up in disk management nor does it spin up. However, it might be connected at some very low level. It is connected to a usb bridge though when I do this. I have also connected it directly to my motherboard without the bridge and no dice in the motherboard bios.

This is all very strange.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 13:22 
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Lardman wrote:
The windows screenshots suggest you have physical access to the drive. It's spinning and initialised you just can't see the logical data.

Download and run the r-studio demo and see if that finds anything.


It spins up but it does not initialize. It pops up in disk management wanting me to initialize and create a GPT partition. When I have done this before in the past once I click on GPT partition to initialize it would say i/o communication error.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
PostPosted: May 7th, 2021, 13:24 
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Do not initialize it or anything else in windows.

It is looking like firmware causing the problem are you absolutely sure the drive does not spin with the original rom using either the donor or original pcb. You really need the right tools to fix the firmware if that is the case or a potential pcb hot-swap after but at the risk of shorting....

Just check connect it up with the new donor and check in rstudio.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Archive HDD Failure. No Crash, No Spin, Silent.
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Lardman wrote:
Do not initialize it or anything else in windows.

It is looking like firmware causing the problem are you absolutely sure the drive does not spin with the original rom using either the donor or original pcb. You really need the right tools to fix the firmware if that is the case or a potential pcb hot-swap after but at the risk of shorting....

Just check connect it up with the new donor and check in rstudio.


Yes, I am absolutely positive that with the new pcb donor board and new rom that has the transferred rom information the drive does not spin up at all. It does exactly the same thing it originally did before all this started. One day I pluged this external usb hard drive in and nothing. Took the hard drive out of the usb external case and plugged it in directly and nothing.

Maybe the ROM just died and hardware was never the problem?

When they mailed by original rom back they put it on another random pcb donor board and that does not work either. Anything that this rom is attached to does not work. no boot up, no spin, dead.

I put any other donor pcb board on this drive and this drive boots up and sounds great. I just can't access the files because its the wrong rom...


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