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 Post subject: Doubts about HDD care
PostPosted: November 3rd, 2023, 4:50 
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1) How many months can a notebook HDD remain unused without damaging its mechanics and data? to keep its mechanics healthy and the data turn on the HDD every day? do the manufacturers say something?

2) Storing the external HDD inside the original plastic blister and inside the cardboard box is bad for humidity

3) When transferring a new file to a notebook's HDD, is there a risk of corrupting files that are already saved on the HDD?

4) any type of small knock with the HDD turned off generates badblocks and damages


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
PostPosted: November 3rd, 2023, 7:59 
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Are these questions or statements?


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
PostPosted: November 3rd, 2023, 10:29 
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1) 31 Months north of the equator, 30 months south.
2) That is actually true. The silica gel -IS- bad for Humidity.
3) it depends how much risqué stuff you are transferring. (G) rated movies can turn into (R) rated ones if you are not careful.
4) don't knock on a hdd... it is not a door. No-one will come out.


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
PostPosted: November 3rd, 2023, 11:09 
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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
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HaQue wrote:
1) 31 Months north of the equator, 30 months south.
2) That is actually true. The silica gel -IS- bad for Humidity.
3) it depends how much risqué stuff you are transferring. (G) rated movies can turn into (R) rated ones if you are not careful.
4) don't knock on a hdd... it is not a door. No-one will come out.


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
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sonicmario wrote:
1) How many months can a notebook HDD remain unused without damaging its mechanics and data? to keep its mechanics healthy and the data turn on the HDD every day? do the manufacturers say something?

2) Storing the external HDD inside the original plastic blister and inside the cardboard box is bad for humidity

3) When transferring a new file to a notebook's HDD, is there a risk of corrupting files that are already saved on the HDD?

4) any type of small knock with the HDD turned off generates badblocks and damages



1. Every manufacturer says "our disks are the best". I had a customer disk, was 6 years off. Worked like new, was a Samsung. Could be luck, one day longer could be desaster, you'll never know. If you intend to search options for long time storage, use for example ZFS with high redundancy (4+ disks from different brands/models in mirror). It checks and fixes integrity if anything is fishy.

2. I don't care for single disks and just stack them in a dry room. If they die, they die. Always store data redundant is a top rule.

3. If the disk isn't damaged otherwise, no.

4. Avoid it. Avoid it more when it's running. Push down the risk by using disks with G-Sensors, but never count on it.


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
PostPosted: November 3rd, 2023, 19:12 
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4. my case knock small impact hdd turn off caused badblocks and damage hdd?

5 i have other hdd sata samsung + external usb any errors what best best formatting to erase isolate and fix these errors?


6 6 years without turning on the HDD and it was working without drying out the lubrication and stopping the engine?


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
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my case knock small impact hdd turn off caused badblocks and damage hdd?

Possible. Avoid it.

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external usb any errors what best best formatting to erase isolate and fix these errors?

Format has nothing to do with it and makes no sense in this context.

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6 years without turning on the HDD and it was working without drying out the lubrication and stopping the engine?

It worked, I have not opened it. Conclusion?


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
PostPosted: November 4th, 2023, 8:15 
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Any problems storing HDDs stacked on top of HDD on top of HDD? horizontal

Any knock and cm with the notebook HDD turned off causes damage and badblock?


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
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Does the DVD burner drive have a magnet If I store an HDD next to a 3 unit DVD drive, will the DVD drive's magnet generate badblocks and delete files from the HDD?


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
PostPosted: November 4th, 2023, 14:04 
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hdds have a magnet or two, or three, or even four, in fact a pretty powerful ones, and they can live in the same housing as your data. So?

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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
PostPosted: November 5th, 2023, 6:22 
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sonicmario wrote:
Does the DVD burner drive have a magnet If I store an HDD next to a 3 unit DVD drive, will the DVD drive's magnet generate badblocks and delete files from the HDD?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpvkUdMu60A


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
PostPosted: November 5th, 2023, 7:03 
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HaQue wrote:
sonicmario wrote:
Does the DVD burner drive have a magnet If I store an HDD next to a 3 unit DVD drive, will the DVD drive's magnet generate badblocks and delete files from the HDD?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpvkUdMu60A


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
PostPosted: November 19th, 2023, 5:23 
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at this point it is basically "how much wood can a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood"


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
PostPosted: November 19th, 2023, 11:29 
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Hard disks are of 3 types -
1) Consumer grade -- general purpose basic entry level no reliability data write - 1 GB/day , usage - 4hours a day .
2) Enterprise grade --- Enterprise storage - can be used 24X7 , NCQ , 70 degrees sustenance , 550TB /year workload , high quality FDB & Heads
3) Server grade - 10K /15K RPM SAS
Toshiba enterprise has least failure rate amongst 3 remaining players.
Though WD has many flavours like red /blue /green /violet etc they all are essentially same internally with minor fw difference (pls. correct me if I am wrong)
video /survillence disks are not suitable for desktop usage (designed for 90% write & 10 % read besides not having ecc correction mechanisam.
While idle time for ssd is debatable as many claims that data retention is not guaranteed if ssd is not powered in a year many have claimed it wrong
Rule applicable for consumer products may not be applicable for enterprise .


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2023, 19:03 
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In my case, I don't constantly use the HDD just to store backup files. How many days or months or years can the laptop HDD support stored without failure in the engine, mechanics, lubrication and flash memory where it contains the firmware and smart?


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 Post subject: Re: Doubts about HDD care
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this q is stupid in a way. most of them can rest in the drawer for 10+ years, but who will guarantee the result?????
nobody.
you've got like 90+ % chance it will be readable 10 years later. Make your decision.
use CMR drives.

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