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PostPosted: January 23rd, 2007, 16:35 
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Hi guys, I have a disc samsung 160GB model sp1604n and by means of speedfan I have just known that this disc gives the following S.M.A.R.T. errors:

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I have used the tool Hutil by Samsung that, after a complete surface scan and found very many errors, it says to me that the disc have some defects and to contact the dealer. The disc have zero reallocated sector counts and that is good.
I would want to know if they are critical errors or if they are recoverable through one Low Level Format.

In absolute, I would want to know also if a problem found by the S.M.A.R.T. functionality can be recovered by means of one Low Level Format or other programs that they promise to resolve this type of problems like HDD Regenerator.

Thank You very much!


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PostPosted: January 24th, 2007, 20:20 
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Hi guys I have a question:
as You see, this disc have 2371 (hex-->9073 dec) Reallocated Event count, that means that the count of remap operations in the spare area have been very massive. Accordingly to this value, the raw value of Offline correctable (uncorrectable errors) are just 9073.
Well, I note at the same time that the Raw value of Reallocated sector Counts is strangely zero and also Current Pending Sectors is set to zero.
Well, I have run HDD Regenerator that have found 2214 (decimal) bad sectors and it has said me that it has recovered all, but the value of effective sectors remapped of Reallocated sector count is still zero, and that leaves me perplexed. How can I force to remap all these sectors in order to make this disc my additional casual storage?

Thank You very much!


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PostPosted: January 25th, 2007, 8:16 
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Hi Plex,
As much i know hdd regenerator does not remap bad sectors.So count of remap in smart does not increase.
for Remap bad sector Hutil is good software as you use it before.But your disk has above 2000 bad sectors it is not advised to remap or use this disk without a proffessional repair.
You should Replace(if it is in warranty or buy new one) it or Give it to a proffessional repairer.


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PostPosted: January 25th, 2007, 8:57 
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Thanks for reply friend, the fact is the disc is off warranty; I have no important data on it and number of bad sectors is blocked from much time and seems to be contiguous in two, three areas. I think this disc can still to be useful for simply occasional storage.
Just I would try to remap all possible sectors and repart the drive "around" the bad blocks. Therefore to remap I can use Hutil, good.
But to my purpose I need also a software that says to me exactly the position of bad blocks, then to repart I use PQM.
I have used HDD Regenerator from a CD-ROM, I don't know if I used it on a floppy it makes a logfile with this information. Otherwise what can I use to do that? Thanks!


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PostPosted: January 25th, 2007, 9:23 
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can not understand what you want.. :?

A-list (list for remap sector in samsung drive) could not handle So many defect..So you should replace it(drive).
Generally disk have so many defect may have some serious problem.


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PostPosted: January 25th, 2007, 9:47 
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Simply thing... I need a software that inform to me about the exactly position of the bad sectors in order to "jump" these in the moment of partitioning. Therefore I will create few partitions that I will merge subsequently. That can be made by means of Partition Magic. :)


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PostPosted: January 25th, 2007, 9:54 
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you can use Mhdd or hddscan for this work


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PostPosted: January 25th, 2007, 9:59 
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Thank You friend, about that:
friend wrote:
Generally disk have so many defect may have some serious problem.
You have completely reason, but the disc unfortunately is by now out of warranty and it would only serve to me as an additional occasional storage. I would want to try this operation. Ciao.


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PostPosted: January 31st, 2007, 17:05 
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Guys I have news about this problem. Take a little time to read this post because at the final there are some surprising results.

To recapitulate.
S.M.A.R.T. monitoring takes back that the disc have 9073 (dec) uncorrectable sectors. No Pending sectors, no Reallocated like image in first post show.
Well, I have performed the following operations on this disc with amazing final results.

First.
I have run the utility from Samsung, Hutil and it has found just very many errors and it says to me that the disc has some defects.

Second.
I have run HDD Regenerator.
It has found 2214 (dec) bad sectors and it has said me to repair all them. Attention: total sectors scanned (full scan of the disc): 312581000.
Subsequently I have run the utility Hutil from Samsung, and it has found the same identical defects before to run HDD Regenerator. Identical.

Third.
I have executed a quick low level format with Hutil, this especially in order to erase both MBR and FAT to remove the references of the old file system. Therefore I have run Hutil and it still reports identical errors as first scan.

Fourth.
I have performed a full low level format by means of Hutil; I'm aware this operation only writes all zeros on every bit of the disc. however I have tried it.

Fifth.
I have partitioned the drive by means of Partition Magic 8. After that, I run MHDD in order to reallocate all possible sectors, but amazingly, simple surface scan reports the disc is completely OK, with this excellent result: All sectors are accesibles in <3ms or <10ms or <50ms.. No <150ms, <500ms, >500ms, UNC etc. Nothing of nothing.. Excellent!
But attention: total sectors: found and scanned 312579695.

There are 1305 sectors disappeared.

Well, the first thought that I had, was that the bad sectors have been reallocated after the full low level format, but surprisingly, for me, the situatiuon of the disc is the following:

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As You see, there are not reallocated sectors and no pending sectors. I am using this disc from three days and there are NOT errors in the eventviewer. Usually it marks this type as critical errors like "FOUND BAD BLOCK IN HARD DISK DEVICE..." etc. etc. and also chkdsk don't found any error. The disc seems to be in great working condition, but I ask to me and You how to interpret these facts. I hope I exactly have reconstructed that is happened considering that I have worked on this disk in the last six-seven days, when I have been able.

Opinions and comments are very good accepted.

Bye.


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PostPosted: February 3rd, 2007, 10:52 
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Nobody try to give an explanation about that?


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