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 Post subject: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: February 8th, 2008, 17:06 
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It has been some time since I first mentioned our development of a platter extraction tool (PET.)

We are now approaching the final stages, having researched and sourced suitable alloys for some of the components required.

Development has been stepped up largely as a result of the numbers of Seagate drives we are seeing with seized bearings. We have used a mill to "open up" some of these drives, and it would appear that repairing the seizure is not a viable option.

We will also be building into the design of our PET the facility to cope with the plastic "inserts" Seagate have started using in their drives.

Our PET will be compatible with ALL 3.5" drives - unlike the "other tool" that is a simple metal cylinder.

All research, design, manufacturing, tooling, milling, alignment, calibration, testing and quality control will be done by us in the UK. No part of this tool will be outsourced.

We are developing a tool that _will_ be costly; but this tool will be built up to a standard, and not down to a price. As a result, initial calculations suggest the cost will be slightly over £1,000 per PET. We have decided to charge in British Pounds, since all charges involved in the manufacturing process will take place in the UK.

We are hopeful that testing will be completed within the next two months, and a video of the process from start to finish will be posted on our website, proving that this PET will work - with practically any 3.5" hard drive.

However - the PET is exactly that - a Platter Extraction Tool. If you do not possess the skills to remove the read/write head assembly, this tool is not going to be for you.

We may consider a r/w head extraction kit - but from experience, careful work with home-made tools does the job very well - and a specially-designed tool for this that would cater for all drive manufacturers would be incredibly costly to manufacture and sell.

The PET is not going to be mass-manufactured; we are reluctant to relinquish quality control and production standards, so we will be hand-building each unit to order. In other words, if you place an order for twenty of these tools, you will have a lead time.

I hope to be able to update this information in the next month or so.


Duncan Clarke
Retrodata.co.uk


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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: June 22nd, 2008, 5:24 
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Any news on this "wonderful" invention... I appreciate the time taken to manufacture such a device...?


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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: June 22nd, 2008, 17:48 
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sounds good to me this will be the ideal tools for hard drives


people dont understand how long it can take to get a pattern for anything
they invent
its takes time and lots of money.
to stop people stealing there ideals


keep us posted :ookay:


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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: June 22nd, 2008, 23:34 
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craig6928 wrote:
sounds good to me this will be the ideal tools for hard drives


people dont understand how long it can take to get a pattern for anything
they invent
its takes time and lots of money.
to stop people stealing there ideals


keep us posted :ookay:


What's the date of its release? The only way to stop people stealing there ideals,is to prove that the IDEA is yours first.

BTW, don't read historical books, otherwise you are stealing wisdom from your ancients.

:mrgreen:
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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: June 23rd, 2008, 18:20 
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We have had some success with technology that can only be akin to old fashioned "pickled onion" pickers.

Three v-shaped plastic coated "tongs" that slide in between the platters and the case (thus avoiding those annoying Seagate plastic inserts); which are then clamped against the platters and onto two circular disks approx 20 mm apart (to maintain parallel clamping pressure on the platters). A hole in the centre of each disk enables access to the clamping ring...

I'll try and get some photos on the board...


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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: June 24th, 2008, 0:40 
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anyone can steal your idea unless you have it patent

UK Intellectual Property Office then its copywrited but only for the uk
so you have to pay out even more money to stop it getting copied in any part of the world.
cost more and more money as you need a diffrent licences for each country.

there a lot of negative about this device as its been a longtime.

i can hardly wait to see the finished product

and wish the guy every success in his new invention


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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: June 24th, 2008, 1:07 
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Sceggy,

That sounds like a real neat idea. However, I think it's limited due to the strength of available materials. Obviously the 'Tongs' that go underneath the platters has to be very thin, yet it has to be very strong to be able to apply pressure to the spindle rings (Or are you applying pressure to the underside of the platter itself?). A strong steel alloy might be ideal from a strength point of view, but you might need to degauss it from time to time. I love Aluminum for making HD tools, but I don't think even a good 7075 would work well in this application.


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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: June 24th, 2008, 5:21 
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ha, a new tool

to using this tool, we must have a "clean room"?

of course we chatted. it seemed that "clean room" is not so necessary. but from this article, this tool is for some large company. so i guess this tool should be used in a "clearn room"


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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: June 24th, 2008, 5:58 
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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: July 1st, 2008, 2:17 
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HPE PRO allow you to change multiple platters without the platters moving out of alignment with each other. For example some larger Seagate drives have 3 platters – HPR PRO remove all of these and allow U to successfully put them into another drive



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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: July 1st, 2008, 2:42 
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Data Recovery Alex basically you dont know the issues on multiple platter with spacers in between. Your tool does not work with this problem so don't SPAM this forum by advertising your products, give us something useful.
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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: July 4th, 2008, 2:05 
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HeadCrash wrote:
Data Recovery Alex basically you dont know the issues on multiple platter with spacers in between. Your tool does not work with this problem so don't SPAM this forum by advertising your products, give us something useful.
:evil:



Headcrash, :mrgreen:

Just Calm down.

In fact, some customers can handle those spacers between the platters by simple marketing something. But there is another problem is that the torx screws, if you can not manage them well, it will cause serious problems.

The good news is that we are developing a complete devices for :

1)the spacers between the platters;
2)motor seizure problem;
3)the head separatorslices;
4)positioning system for the platters;
5)microscope;

Those assembly will consist of the Advanced comprehensive solution for the HDD physical problems.

Don't steal my idea, guys. I am the owner of those ideas. :lol:

For the last sentence above, you see I am just joking and otherwise, someone would say i have no sense of humor.

Any news, i will keep you informed.

Best Regards

Laura

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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: July 4th, 2008, 2:50 
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BTW,

To solve the spacers between the platters, you can use HPE by making some markprint on the edge of platters. But this idea comes from some Guru, I won't be responsible for the results.

:P

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 Post subject: Re: Platter Extraction Tool (RetroPET)
PostPosted: July 4th, 2008, 5:31 
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marking will not be accurate enough, when you mark the edges, you are still missing microns of accuracy. Missing microns = data lost.


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