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 Post subject: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 20th, 2008, 22:50 
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hi,

do you guys any documentation for doing firmware repair using pc3K PCI?
1. how to repair firmware ?
2. how scan what the problem ?
3. how to backup a donor drive ?
4. how to add database ?
5. what is !Profile for ?

thanks guys if u all want to share this thing in this forum. hope to hear from u soon.

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 Post subject: Re: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 21st, 2008, 7:27 
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Ha!

Would you like me to transfer some money to you also?

Unbelievable...

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 Post subject: Re: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 21st, 2008, 11:37 
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Every PC3000 comes with a Manual (Instructions), you should have them too.

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 Post subject: Re: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 21st, 2008, 13:12 
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you mean....every LEGITIMATE copy of PC3000 comes with a manual!!

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 Post subject: Re: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 21st, 2008, 15:51 
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:? no comment


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 Post subject: Re: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 21st, 2008, 16:35 
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So far the OP has been mocked by every poster.

However, I feel he has a very valid point.

The manual for PC3000 tells you in great detail information about (probably "older" rather than "all") hard drives, and their unique programming niceties.

What the manual does NOT tell you, however, is to perform the most simple firmware recovery of, for example, a Maxtor drive.

In my opinion, a product such as PC3K, the mastery of which needs a training course for even the most advanced programmers, is something I would not dream of launching - let alone selling.

So, you may mock the OP - but I actually stand by his comments.

The days of "hey, I'm a data recovery specialist - I'm allowed to be an arrogant bastard" are over, guys - realise it.

Some of us are better than others - but that's life. But for anyone who stamped on the OP's post - are you really that good? Seriously?


Duncan


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 Post subject: Re: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 21st, 2008, 16:51 
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Sorry but most of the 5 points made by the OP are covered by the manual.
Admitedly not all model drives are covered as you have pointed out.
The problem is that the technology is moving much faster than the Ace lab can keep pace with.
Sometimes peeps have to experiment on their own rather than look for a one stop solution.
Anyway the OP never mention what drive he's working on.


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 Post subject: Re: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 21st, 2008, 17:30 
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I don't think anyone, including myself, were arrogant. You can't expect to post a request, basically asking to be trained in the usage of pc3000, and expect a comprehensive reply. The only way to learn how to use it is to read the manual, despite how difficult it can be, and learn by using good hard drives, to see how they should behave when working properly.

You will see that the OP has 6 posts in total, so is obviously a newbie. Backing up a donor drive is a basic concept and is well covered in the manual. There are support articles and videos on the acelab site and reading the forums can help.

If the OP has a legit copy, then fair play, but dont expect all the answers in one quick post. I started at nothing and learned my way through the business. I'm far from perfect and learning everyday, but I spent the money on legit equipment and official acelab training.

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 Post subject: Re: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 21st, 2008, 19:28 
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Datarec this forum is to conservative for your questions here. Maybe someone will read and pm you with help.

Good on you Odiferous for speaking your mind. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 22nd, 2008, 2:28 
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thanks guys for all ur comment, i think one person to each person has the different experience in using PC3K, and i know it's difficult to share. But, for all of you, there are millions and billions of people around the world and i think there are only 1% that using PC3K in this world, so what need to keep?? this community are for share each other. If there is someone don't want to share maybe another one will give me all the knowledge.

But.. it's up to u guys. Its all yours. I can't push you... :D

BTW, thanks for all reply... i appreciate it.... :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 22nd, 2008, 3:56 
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Seems that everyone is starting a DR business... :wink: . Anyway, regardless of the solutions you buy (market available) , the difference is made by YOU. Firmware related problems are - in my experience - 20% of the total issues, keep in mind that most of the problems are electrical/mechanical including heads and so on, and then it's only a matter of study, time and practice.
I had to work it out all by myself because of many factors, and later I had to develop my own proprietary solutions especially for Samsung, Toshiba and other (diagnose/gain access/some repair) before I quit DR.

The main reason I quit DR is that too many people, with legit or not solutions are starting so-called DR business(es), producing only a terrible mess and making damage on the drives beyond repair poking with things they don't master or know. I have many alternative fields to work on, where I have no competition, so why worry ?

@datarec
This community is NOT for share with each other, even if most people won't tell it (it's implicit) because the pros do business for a living. A little help (if known solution, I pointed out that the majority rely on the market available solutions, highly skilled pros are very few and have about zero time for staying here) is one thing, destroy business and spoil the market is another.
Just ask your mechanic if he can make a copy of car service manuals or tell you how ECM work... or your doctor to give you training in surgery (it's so easy, even him has been trained !).
If I were you, I'll ask politely if someone in YOUR area can give you training and what will it cost, then if you can afford it you can hire that service.
There's nothing to be ashamed in starting a new business and asking for skilled people to get trained, but not for free. Business is business and child play is child play.
For example, I can give you all the training you need, I don't care what solution(s) you have , but you have to pay me. I'll give regular invoice and pay dues and taxes on it. After that you can judge if I have done a good or bad job, NOT BEFORE. Training and education is another business. (It's not self promotion :mrgreen:)

If you find some good soul can give you all the training you need for free, good for you - but maybe this is not the right place, I think.

(I think I have wasted my time with this post but I felt the urge to speak) :mrgreen:

Regards.


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 Post subject: Re: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 22nd, 2008, 4:09 
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BTW...

@datarec,
The world is (luckily) not limited to one solution, if you are not satisfied with service/documentation/support, tell the manufacturer or the dealer.

Not solved yet ? Sell and buy another , asking for what you need BEFORE buying.
I have changed a lot of suppliers for instrumentation and equipment on this base.
Finally I found solutions where I got the equipment with the specs. I needed, training (at extra cost) and the first class service and support (at another extra cost) I wanted. :good: .

Obviously I haven't bought anything else from the elder suppliers that gave me no answers / poor service. Yes, they came back saying "we have a promo on this XXX ..." or "dear VALUABLE (!!) customer, we haven't heard from you since.... " I just said NO... "why ?"... "you know the answer, ask yourself. And now I'm too busy, so I'm afraid I have to end this conversation, bye bye..."

Don't be afraid to ask.


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 Post subject: Re: pc-3000 step-by-step guide
PostPosted: June 22nd, 2008, 17:19 
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BlackST thats no reason to quit, in many business, there will be competition sooner or later. It is the best, the fitter that survive. If others around you are spoiling drives, no worry soon they will see you are better and soon word gets around.

Competition i see is very healthy, rewards are free marketing with many new customers. ;)

You found a nich market no competition for now, reap the rewards, enjoy. :)


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