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 Post subject: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 27th, 2009, 1:25 
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I have all my files in this external hard drive. I just stop working; it makes a very light beep. I actually opened it and try to make it spin, but it will just won’t spin. I cannot pay a recovery company for the data recovery. Is there a step-by-step manual to make the HDD spin? PLEASE HELP


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 27th, 2009, 1:34 
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Did you open the external USB case or the actual hard drive itself???

Did you drop this hard drive or how did it die?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 27th, 2009, 1:37 
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hddmania wrote:
Did you open the external USB case or the actual hard drive itself???

Did you drop this hard drive or how did it die?


I stepped out of the office and when I came back, the secretary said it stopped working. I did actually open the USB case and the HD.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 27th, 2009, 1:44 
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I think I can guess what is the problem on your drive, but could you post some pics here since you already opened the drive?

Pictures of the drive's white label and PCB and inside the drive?????

Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 27th, 2009, 2:04 
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There is no step by step solution !
There are no hidden secrets !
There are no tricks !

- there is no other way:

Either you contact a pro and pay to get your data back
or
you mess around with your drive = do it yourself
and loose your data.

Why didnt you read and act according to the information prior registration ?

Dear new member!

If you want to receive help out of this forum — you should prepare all necessary details in your question, otherwise you may not expect a complete or correct answer. Your correct Location (City and Country) would perhaps help you to find a specialist for your problem in your area.

If your data has no or minor value — please do mention this in your request. A new harddisk and a new installation of your system is most probably cheaper than to play and look around in the internet and waste your and others valuable time.

If you have problems with a harddisk which contains important (valuable) data:

* any kind of manipulation with the harddisk or with software could hinder a data retrieval or could cause an enourmous increase of the retrieval costs.
* do not use any software, even if some guys (internet) told you to do so
* do not run chkdsk or defragmentation, even if you are told to do so
* do not open a harddisk if you dont have the knowledge, training and the tools (even then you may expect to loose the data)
* contact a (local) DR company; supply them with complete information
* perhaps this forum could guide you to find the right DR company

Four solutions for you:
1. you are the typical user who knwos all better than a pro - then try DIY - its your data
2. you store your hdd in a save place for some time - until you got the money
3. you put the hdd into the garbadge - you will stay poor and wont get enough money
4. you look for a pro - even here in the forum - get an estimate on "money for data basis"
. and then if its that important - beg at your relatifs to get the repair paid from them....

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 27th, 2009, 15:16 
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At this point to make it spin is simple : take a Black & Decker drill, weld a tip perfectly vertical on the center of the spindle, put the drive under the drill support , put the tip in the chuck, grip, turn on the drill... Voila ! It spins. :mrgreen:
If you don't like Black&Decker you can choose from Hilti, Makita, Bosch, Hitachi, Skil, AEG, Milwaukee, chinese brand drill...
Jokes apart, in any case if you opened the drive itself , a DR company will charge you at least 50% more, if not 2x the standard fee...


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 27th, 2009, 22:24 
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I personally like Makita - very balanced in all parameters stuff :mrgreen:

about your drive - you will not get your data. Here is why
Seized spindle on .11 drives is a very tough case and you simply cannot fix it w/o experience

Even DR will not help and here is why
Because your case normally would cost ~2000 USD (after you opened it) in DR firm which actually can do this case and I really doubt that you willing to spend more than 200 USD, so you are going to ask some cheap guys which promise you DR for 100 USD. They probably will ask you for evaluation fee (like 50 bucks or maybe 20 if they cheap enough) and at the end of the day you will have no data and no money. You will be pissed off and you will think that DR is BS and this forum is BS and you will never ask such arrogant bastards (I mean forum members) for any help (which is totally fine with me)
Excuse my French

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 27th, 2009, 23:24 
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The whole problem in your case it's not to repair the disk
is to convert Secretary !!!







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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 28th, 2009, 0:05 
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I time to time take a cheap side gig here and there but I would not go that $200-cheap...


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 28th, 2009, 3:44 
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He needs something like this, again Help disc product heheh
nothing beats brute force...
there i a whay to take out the axel of the motor widouth taking of heads or platters but it needs a strong hand...


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 28th, 2009, 9:47 
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Makita is better...


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
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I can't see how using that method is safer than moving the platters. How do the other members deal with seized motors? Brute force or platter swap?

I vote platter swap.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 28th, 2009, 10:35 
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molto bene...

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 28th, 2009, 10:48 
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much good? how?


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 28th, 2009, 11:37 
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brute force can work BUT the spindle will be OOB (out of balance) "probably"

WD works quite well with the BF style MAKITA hammer drill :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 28th, 2009, 17:09 
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HDD Spaz wrote:
I can't see how using that method is safer than moving the platters. How do the other members deal with seized motors? Brute force or platter swap?

I vote platter swap.

well who said it is not better....
desperate times need desperate messures, some times it is enough especialy on WD drives, on seagates exel in motor gets damaged....even BIG companies try to do it before they use sticky papper....
there are poepple who actualy do data recovery.....
Moving platters withouth traing to unstack the motor would be as traing to change heads withouth checking the pcb first.

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 28th, 2009, 19:06 
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A seized motor when 'unlocked' will operate with considerable vibration or not full speed so reading is unstable and / or fail to ID - especially on Seagate and Samsung. I am critical about these methods, when unnecessary : better off move the pack to a known good motor.


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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 28th, 2009, 21:00 
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... and many times the platters have invisible ~radial scratch what makes it even more problematic.

Anyway, there's no need to say anything more, this case is getting screwed up I think.
A tool is only useful in expert hands...

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: April 29th, 2009, 3:54 
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exactly

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 Post subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 stopped spining HELP
PostPosted: July 31st, 2009, 4:48 
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pepe wrote:
... and many times the platters have invisible ~radial scratch what makes it even more problematic.

Anyway, there's no need to say anything more, this case is getting screwed up I think.
A tool is only useful in expert hands...

pepe


I have purchased this tool from Helpdisc, and today alone have recovered 2 Seagate Drive with spindle siezure, one was 7200.11. It is no substitute for platter swap, but is a effective method that in many cases gives good results.


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