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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 8th, 2008, 5:19 
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polanwu wrote:
I am not optimistic about PC3000FLASH
I am optimistic about FRT

Why aren't you optimistic about PC 3000 Flash?


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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 8th, 2008, 11:15 
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Yes, I am more optimistic about the BVG is the company's tool for FRT.
Because it can provide a complete solution, the new procedures for their accession to the user in control possible. PC3000FLASH of ACE and there is no such operation.
This is my reason: an open procedure


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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 8th, 2008, 11:47 
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Oh...Dear people, never, never buy SoftCenter sh*t....It's unprofessional tool...I have bought it some month ago. Interface of this product is awful, this tool created only for programmists, not for data recovery specialists.


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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 8th, 2008, 13:39 
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Inessa_25 wrote:
Oh...Dear people, never, never buy SoftCenter sh*t....It's unprofessional tool...I have bought it some month ago. Interface of this product is awful, this tool created only for programmists, not for data recovery specialists.


Sorry, but you are wrong. The Softcenter tool is NOT "unprofessional".

Granted it's not a "push button" solution, you do actually have to understand the process and know what you are doing.

Any decent "data recovery specialist" should have the necessary common knowledge, skill and determination to work this tool.

Not only does it work, the support is very very good. But you MUST put the work into understanding the strange "goings on" inside these devices, and not expect to he "hand held" thoughout every recovery.

I have been using it (in fact we have two readers in-house) for many many months, and rarely fail with a recovery using it.

I also know there are other people on this forum who use it, and are pleased with it. Right guys?

Sorry if this seems harsh, but it does annoy me when people say tools are "sh*t" because they cannot work them.

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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 8th, 2008, 14:56 
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pcimage wrote:
Inessa_25 wrote:
Oh...Dear people, never, never buy SoftCenter sh*t....It's unprofessional tool...I have bought it some month ago. Interface of this product is awful, this tool created only for programmists, not for data recovery specialists.


Sorry, but you are wrong. The Softcenter tool is NOT "unprofessional".

Granted it's not a "push button" solution, you do actually have to understand the process and know what you are doing.

Any decent "data recovery specialist" should have the necessary common knowledge, skill and determination to work this tool.

Not only does it work, the support is very very good. But you MUST put the work into understanding the strange "goings on" inside these devices, and not expect to he "hand held" thoughout every recovery.

I have been using it (in fact we have two readers in-house) for many many months, and rarely fail with a recovery using it.

I also know there are other people on this forum who use it, and are pleased with it. Right guys?

Sorry if this seems harsh, but it does annoy me when people say tools are "sh*t" because they cannot work them.

If you think that I have small knowledgebase, you must be mistaken. I know a lot info about internal algorithms, and mixes, which are used in memorychips. I hope you know what does mean "mix". I have only this tool, and I'm really disapionted in this one. Because all of my cases are not so easy, with this tool. And size of cases is too big!!!! It's really awful. Btw, their software really funny!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 8th, 2008, 20:19 
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polanwu wrote:
Yes, I am more optimistic about the BVG is the company's tool for FRT.
Because it can provide a complete solution, the new procedures for their accession to the user in control possible. PC3000FLASH of ACE and there is no such operation.
This is my reason: an open procedure


Even so, you have to buy HRT just to use it? That seems pretty wasteful.

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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 8th, 2008, 22:08 
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he is different from the operation mode of PC3000, different modes of thinking, make some persons of a lot of habit PC3000s feel unaccustomed. But its function is really very strong. Just upgraded on December 1, the function of the procedure was further improved, was very worth buying. The feeling that the products of BVG Company are my own is opened equally very much like LINUX operating system, the products of ACE are like Microsoft's operating system.
I think that's so.


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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 8th, 2008, 22:17 
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Soft-center flash extractor

I appreciate it very much, because it has a very good technical support!
But they have given up the market of Asia at present, can not buy by May of next year,
Expect very much!


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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 3:31 
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I agree with pcimage that the softcenter tools are very good indeed. I've been using them also for many months and it only let me down on one occasion with an encrypted usbstick. I wonder if the ace tool could handle that.

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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 13:41 
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dobrevjetser wrote:
I agree with pcimage that the softcenter tools are very good indeed. I've been using them also for many months and it only let me down on one occasion with an encrypted usbstick. I wonder if the ace tool could handle that.

Dobre


I want to buy this tool very much. But they stop the sale of Asia now.
What I took a fancy to is their technical support too
What is the price when you buy?
You use it in the course, think whether to have any difficulty or not?


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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 17:46 
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Don't make big mistake, don't buy this raw software, I have this one, And it's very difficult to use. you should know much info about mixes, about internal structure of flah memory, and about all internal processes. It's really raw software. I wanna to resell my kit, if you interested, you can PM me.


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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 18:25 
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Inessa_25 wrote:
Don't make big mistake, don't buy this raw software, I have this one, And it's very difficult to use. you should know much info about mixes, about internal structure of flah memory, and about all internal processes. It's really raw software. I wanna to resell my kit, if you interested, you can PM me.


I have great expectations for this tool, if possible, please let me know you want to sell tools for how much? What is your address? Me in Beijing, China, and how to deliver? Are there technical support account?Thank you.


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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: December 10th, 2008, 3:52 
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pc3000flash is easier instrument for novice
FRT from bvg group is opening and flexible ,recent update offer a document name "address" to tech their user to understand data structure in memory chip. their forum really suck! the manuals coming with the HRT always in russian, force me to lean russian like a pupil :cry:
Softcenter Flash Extractor is raw suit for experienced user with a power TS forum!!
actrual, we got a instrument is easy,but the services and support after sale is the core, pc3000 complex suit are good one for the reason :money talk! so i have nothing to say. Bvg's FRT are nice for user to creat their own way to recover Data like the manner they adopted all the time.SFE is a hard/software suit based on the leaning-way-program solution,their Tech-support is excellent by the authrized forum account,of couse you have to pay a little for the "education" per month,that 's all right for the DR market. i guess
that is the opinions i cherished.
btw, i have the document of pc3000flashmemory(in English) and FRT's Address(in russian),i dont have the authrized forum account yet ,but i am looking for their product at present. if any one tend to get them, pm me for free. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Soft-center flash extractor
PostPosted: November 19th, 2013, 23:10 
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Is this FRT Tool still being developed? their website is hard to navigate, and there wasnt too much about this tool there.

even the product page at http://www.bvg-group.ru/eng/diagnostic/diagnostic.php doesnt list it.


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