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Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: July 7th, 2011, 7:54
by pclab
Hi
I got this flash drive from a client to get the files out. It's a no brand flash drive (I don't know where he bought it).
The drive is detected but as 8MB. After reading in this section and by watching the flash memory (as you can see in the picture), can this be a fake?
Does the 2 legs not solder, be the cause?
Thanks
Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: July 7th, 2011, 9:35
by Vulcan
pclab wrote:Does the 2 legs not solder, be the cause?
IMHO no - the pins which I think you mean (pins 45 & 46 - in your picture, the ones 3rd & 4th up from the bottom on the left side) are unused on typical byte-wide (8-bit) NAND flash in 48-pin TSOP packages.
Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: July 7th, 2011, 10:49
by pclab
Thanks Vulcan
What about the complete lack of info of the chip??
Weird....
Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: July 7th, 2011, 10:59
by Vulcan
pclab wrote:Thanks Vulcan
You're very welcome

pclab wrote:What about the complete lack of info of the chip??
Weird....
In my limited experience, such chips are often the rejects which did not meet full spec after testing. Therefore I expect this is low quality flash, but some parts of the chip might work OK. Other people with more experience may have extra info about this.
If you have a programming tool which can issue the NAND "Read ID" command, then the "original" NAND type might be found e.g. byte 0 of the Read ID response = maker (0x29 is Micron, for example), then byte 1 of that response = device ID given by the manufacturer.
Good luck!
(Edited to add: P.S. This type of behaviour (reported as 8MB) can sometimes be a controller fault e.g. can't detect flash. I expect the easiest way to attempt recovery is to remove the flash and then try to read it in a suitable reader.)
Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: July 7th, 2011, 13:51
by hddguy
8MB is probably size of cache.
What markings do you see on the controller? This will give a better idea of the likelihood of a recovery with specialist tools like Soft Center. When you have an idea about how recovery chance you can make better decision about how to deal with it

Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: July 7th, 2011, 14:17
by pclab
Hi Hddguy
Here's the controller picture.
Thanks
Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: July 7th, 2011, 14:54
by hddguy
This is rebranded Chipsbank controller. Should not be too much problem to assemble the data from a dump of the NAND.
Lack of markings on NAND and Controller is common with cheap unbranded models.
Did you try to repair electrically ? Do you have access to Flash recovery tools?
Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: July 7th, 2011, 15:38
by pcimage
hddguy is correct, rebranded Chipsbank controller (CBM2090 from memory) which uses Bank tables.
Common in cheap Chinese USB sticks, or promotional "giveaway" sticks.
Little trickier than normal, but should be recoverable
Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: July 8th, 2011, 10:12
by pclab
Hi
I don't have Flash recovery tools or tried to repair it.
Gonna need someone to outsource it.
Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: July 8th, 2011, 12:09
by pcimage
You can try dmarques on this forum, he's in Lisbon I believe.
Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: August 19th, 2011, 5:54
by bitozoid
I have the same problem. I tried to contact dmarques without success. Can anyone help me or point me out how to do it myself?
Thanks in advance
Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: August 19th, 2011, 6:57
by ici_lemmy
If you don't have Flash recovery tools, you'll have to outsource it !
Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: August 19th, 2011, 9:23
by pcimage
If you're prepared to post to UK, then PM me.
Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: August 19th, 2011, 10:47
by hddguy
bitozoid wrote:Can anyone help me or point me out how to do it myself?
Assuming the device is physically damaged, DIY repair is impossible.
Pcimage can handle this for you, he comes highly recomended here

Re: Flash drive detected as 8MB
Posted: August 24th, 2011, 4:12
by bitozoid
I'll try to contact pcimage then.
Thanks for the prompt answers and sorry for the late response.