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Unable to identify the controller

Posted: July 18th, 2014, 12:02
by Matiw
I have an 8G Sandisk Flash with the following written on the controller chip:

Sandisk
82-00330-3
9243-PMR107
8DC1

I have checked PC3000 controller database but, I can not find a controller resembling the above numbers.
I have also been googling the net but in vain, I fail to get any controller related to the above numbers. Can someone please shade a light on this.

Thanks

Re: Unable to identify the controller

Posted: July 18th, 2014, 13:26
by lcoughey
Did you contact ACE tech support for remote assistance?

Re: Unable to identify the controller

Posted: July 18th, 2014, 15:23
by arvika
It could be new controller. I have never meet this model. PC3000 usually do not support Sandisk controller. Try Flash Extractor.

Re: Unable to identify the controller

Posted: July 18th, 2014, 20:43
by HaQue
could you post pics of the exploded device and closeups of both sides of PCB?

probably more useful to read the NAND, and then see if the controller matches a config from another one. Some of the Sandisks are encrypted, hope it isn't the case.

I can have a look If you want to upload the dumps of the nands.

I may have a controller like that, I can check, and if so might be able to figure out XOR and mix by comparing with my good one.

Re: Unable to identify the controller

Posted: July 19th, 2014, 9:04
by Matiw
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The information on te NAND is:

P12370092
SDTNNMBHSM-008G
WSB526001855

Here I have attached pictures of the top and bottom sides of the PCB.

Thanks for any info.

I ave not yet succeeded in taking a dump as I still do not have the necessary information to get the NAND identified.





HaQue wrote:could you post pics of the exploded device and closeups of both sides of PCB?

probably more useful to read the NAND, and then see if the controller matches a config from another one. Some of the Sandisks are encrypted, hope it isn't the case.

I can have a look If you want to upload the dumps of the nands.

I may have a controller like that, I can check, and if so might be able to figure out XOR and mix by comparing with my good one.

Re: Unable to identify the controller

Posted: July 19th, 2014, 11:56
by HaQue
Did you try and read the NAND, if so what is the Chip ID? 45 CE 95 32 ? should be a 16-bit chip 8640 page size with 1 8GB Bank. Cant see a problem with reading it

Re: Unable to identify the controller

Posted: July 19th, 2014, 12:47
by Matiw
I have not yet been able to identify the chip; I sall ceck if I have some physical problem with the chip.

HaQue wrote:Did you try and read the NAND, if so what is the Chip ID? 45 CE 95 32 ? should be a 16-bit chip 8640 page size with 1 8GB Bank. Cant see a problem with reading it

Re: Unable to identify the controller

Posted: July 19th, 2014, 23:08
by HaQue
What equipment are you using, does it have a physical jumper or different shield/adapter for 16bit chips maybe? It is possible for the chip to be bad, though rare in my experience

Re: Unable to identify the controller

Posted: July 21st, 2014, 10:23
by Matiw
I am using PC3000 Flash. I can read other memory chips without any problem.

HaQue wrote:What equipment are you using, does it have a physical jumper or different shield/adapter for 16bit chips maybe? It is possible for the chip to be bad, though rare in my experience

Re: Unable to identify the controller

Posted: July 21st, 2014, 16:06
by fzabkar
Does this help?
http://flash-extractor.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5677

Your NAND chips appear to differ from the following "standard" pinout:
http://forum.soft-center.ru/School/Adap ... 8/chip.gif

For example, there are several NC pins which connect to the controller, plus there are several additional supply pins.

Re: Unable to identify the controller

Posted: July 21st, 2014, 22:49
by HaQue
Thanks franc, exactly what I was talking about :)