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Hi to all ,

i have s flash 16 gb sp with controller sm3257EN Q with two chips toshiba

i can read this two chip with soft center nand reader id 98 DE 94 93 but have many bad sectors

but i can't read id code any one of two chips with nand reader for pc3000 flash while another memories can read

message in log pc3000 flash nand reader
[17.01.2015 22:33:45]: Adapter is not use!
[17.01.2015 22:33:47]: PinState ID= 8 ->
[17.01.2015 22:33:47]: .. Bus= 8 bit/ IO0x-0 -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:47]: .. Bus= 16 bit (JEDEC) -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:47]: .. Bus= 16 bit (ONFI) -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:48]: PinState ID= 430 ->
[17.01.2015 22:33:48]: .. Bus= 8 bit/ IO0x-0 -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:48]: .. Bus= 16 bit (JEDEC) -> SKIP PIN STATE (USE H BUS)!
[17.01.2015 22:33:48]: .. Bus= 16 bit (ONFI) -> SKIP PIN STATE (USE H BUS)!
[17.01.2015 22:33:48]: PinState ID= 109 ->
[17.01.2015 22:33:48]: .. Bus= 8 bit/ IO0x-0 -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:48]: .. Bus= 16 bit (JEDEC) -> SKIP PIN STATE (USE H BUS)!
[17.01.2015 22:33:48]: .. Bus= 16 bit (ONFI) -> SKIP PIN STATE (USE H BUS)!
[17.01.2015 22:33:48]: PinState ID= 9 ->
[17.01.2015 22:33:49]: .. Bus= 8 bit/ IO0x-0 -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:49]: .. Bus= 16 bit (JEDEC) -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:49]: .. Bus= 16 bit (ONFI) -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:50]: PinState ID= 36 ->
[17.01.2015 22:33:50]: .. Bus= 8 bit/ IO0x-0 -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:50]: .. Bus= 16 bit (JEDEC) -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:50]: .. Bus= 16 bit (ONFI) -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:51]: PinState ID= 43 ->
[17.01.2015 22:33:51]: .. Bus= 8 bit/ IO0x-0 -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:51]: .. Bus= 16 bit (JEDEC) -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!
[17.01.2015 22:33:51]: .. Bus= 16 bit (ONFI) -> ID= 0x00000000 (ID EXT= 0x00000000 00000000) - Error!

any one idea?

with thanks

hamid Bidrang

hi again,

in section manual mode in parameters i selected this id chip 0x98DE9493 and afetr read chips but files in winhex are 00000000... to end of dump

i want read these tow chips with pc3000 nand reader
any one help me?


best regard

what was the page size in the config of PC3K? Recently I saw the page size in another tool of a similar chip set as 17662 when it should be 17664.

Also this chip could possibly need a power mod. I would try:

In Soft Center:

1/0x80ac (VCC on pads: 1,12,24,34,37,38,39.)
and if not better:
1/0x0024 (VCC on pads: 34,37,39.)

Also, sometimes the "check" ecc doesn't look good until you turn it on.

Not sure what you can do for PC3K, maybe make sure pins are cleaned well and straight.

hi HaQue
thanks for answer,

configure with pc3000
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: Microchip ID =00 PATH =01:
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: Packet Size = 64 pages. Microchip reading...
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: ------------------------------------------------------------------
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: Operation parameters
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: Pin State....................: ID= 9 (TSOP-48)(Default2 (1,24 - 1, 2,23 -0, 34,38 - 1))
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: States by pin..........(PIN):(STATE)
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 01: -> Vcc
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 02: -> GND
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 03: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 11: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 20: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 21: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 22: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 23: -> GND
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 24: -> Vcc
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 26: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 27: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 28: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 33: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 34: -> Vcc
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 35: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 38: -> Vcc
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 39: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 40: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 45: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 46: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: 47: -> Z
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: Reading algorithm............: ID= 1: SDR
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: Reading rule.................: ID= 336(PLNS=1 PLN=2116/2116 BLK=256/256)
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: Autoverification.............: NO
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: Timings.....................:
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: T1: 62.4 ns
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: T2: 20.8 ns
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: tREH: 83.2 ns
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: tRP: 83.2 ns
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: Full period: 166.4 ns. Max Speed 5.731 Mb/s (SDR!)
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: Back analisys.............: YES
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: Correct إرر...............: NO
[18.01.2015 00:22:32]: ------------------------------------------------------------------
[18.01.2015 00:22:34]: R/#B0 -> 1 -> Status Line OK!
[18.01.2015 00:22:34]: R/#B1 -> 1 -> Status Line OK!
[18.01.2015 00:22:42]: ------------------------------------------------------------------
[18.01.2015 00:22:42]: Background analysis report:
[18.01.2015 00:22:42]: ------------------------------------------------------------------
[18.01.2015 00:22:42]: Duration : 00:00:10 - Canceled by user

how i can test with power mod ? because give me message need a some parameters

about clean and straight yes , i'm sure about clean and straight checked that many times


and about soft center i have not update for that ,then i can't used soft center tools for recovery


thanks for your suggettion

about configure soft center
// Chip
Company Toshiba
Name ???
ID code 98 de 94 93

// Structure
Bus 8
Banks 1 x 8 GB
Page 17664
Block 0x0
Blocks 0x0

// Read
Cmd Std
Col 2
Row 3
DDR false

// Timings
RE_Up 4
RE_Down 4

// Special
Power
Skip_Mask_1 0xffffffff
Skip_Page_1 0xffffffff
Skip_Mask_2 0xffffffff
Skip_Page_2 0xffffffff
SE_ false


and pc3000

In the PC3K settings, is that shown this is trying to read using DDR? I think this chip is not DDR.

I really do not know the PC3K tool..

hi HaQue,

thyanks for guide

yes, i testing with another chose except ddr (sdr, col2 row3,... ) but no result

i'm doing another work , replace dumb soft center with pc3000 flash and now correctting data with ecc on

hamidbid wrote:replace dumb soft center with pc3000 flash and now correctting data with ecc on

Why is soft center dumb?

I think he means "dump"

There is an issue with initial power mode for some chips.
Try this trick:
1. Reconnect PC-3000
2. Create new task
3. Insert chip into reader.
3. Start read ID and stop it immediately.
4. Set power modes 9 and 109.
5. Read ID and chip.