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 Post subject: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 14th, 2015, 4:13 
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Hi,all

i am facing Toshiba 256GB ssd issues like Dead or Not Detected anywhere.as per my guess Toshiba Controller/associated components as per attached picture Can be faulty?if the problem with memory chips it will detect at least Controller?anybody having Data Sheet for same SSD or Controller itself to detailed analysis.
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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 14th, 2015, 5:34 
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Sandforce :-(

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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 14th, 2015, 7:43 
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It is Sandforce controller (rebranded by Toshiba) as pcimage write above. No solution so far.

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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 14th, 2015, 10:01 
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http://www.payam.com.au/content_common/pg-ssd-data-recovery.seo

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SSDs with hardware data encryption (e.g Sandforce) - Yes we can help!

We are one of only a few companies in the WORLD that can recover data from SSDs with built in hardware encryption! Especially ones with a Sandforce controller.

Examples of the most common ones we see fail are OCZ Agility/Vertex/Vector, Intel 320 and 520 (being detected as 8mb) , Samsung 840 Pro and PM830, Corsair, Kingston, Toshiba, SSDs from Apple Mac computers and any other brands.

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$500 non-refundable initial attempt fee + $3500 only due if the data can be recovered.

This price is only for Encrypted SSDs that are no longer detected/recognised by a computer or detected as an incorrect size (e.g 8mb) as these are very time consuming.


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http://www.prweb.com/releases/SandForce_SSD/Data_Recovery/prweb12496855.htm
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ACE Data Group Develops Breakthrough SSD Technology to Recover Data from SandForce-based SSDs

Industry leading data recovery company devises better way to extract data from failed and locked solid state drives powered by SandForce controllers.


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http://www.storagesearch.com/news2011-may1.html

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SandForce names trusted partner for SSD data recovery

Editor:- May 5, 2011 - SandForce today named DriveSavers as a member of its trusted partners program.

"DriveSavers was our first choice to expand the SandForce Trusted program to include data recovery services," said Kent Smith, Senior Director of Product Marketing for SandForce. "While SandForce SSD Processors eliminate the most common data loss scenarios through DuraClass NAND flash management features, DriveSavers can provide the SSD a safety net should the unexpected SSD failure happen and data loss occurs."


Still, I am sceptical..


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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 14th, 2015, 10:53 
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Hehe, only 500$ for information that data can't be recovered? Very cheap :)

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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 15th, 2015, 2:26 
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Hi,

it will not work simply replacing with proper tools San force Controller if Controller is faulty?as per symptoms no detection/Dead
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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 15th, 2015, 4:36 
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No. Not work.

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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 15th, 2015, 8:18 
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In almost all cases, Flash Chips are "married" to the controller. Meaning once the unit is put together, mass production tools will look at the flash chips and information about them will be configured in the firmware. Things such as timing, bad blocks etc. Simply being the exact same parts is not enough. There are a lot of different ways flash and controller chips are setup to become a storage device, and I doubt there would be many cases where a controller could be switched out.


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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 16th, 2015, 4:08 
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Thank you all supporting advice.anyway we are going to ready for SSD.i all ready discuss with Acelab for Quote of pc-3000 SSD kit&adapters.Thanks again all


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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 16th, 2015, 4:13 
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Hi,
you must wait. the next update of pc3k will support sandforge controllers.
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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 16th, 2015, 4:15 
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teufel82 wrote:
Hi,
you must wait. the next update of pc3k will support sandforge controllers.
Frank


I heard other info in Prague conference: don't know, maybe this year, maybe next. Maybe...

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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
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i was at the conference, i heard it so?


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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 16th, 2015, 4:43 
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Hi guys,

I also remember that on Prague conference it was spoken that "maybe this year, maybe next". Nobody promised that it would be in next release. SandForce controllers have AES encryption of techno-key and microcode so I think it's a big challenge to hack it.

AFAIR in next release PC3K developers promise to add OCZ Vertex 450 drives on Barefoot 3 CPU, and Corsair Neureton drives.


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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 16th, 2015, 15:33 
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HaQue wrote:


Never heard of "ZCopy Ultra" before this article. Anyone know what that is exactly?

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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 16th, 2015, 18:53 
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from what I can gather it is their in house tool. Along with custom nand boards apparently.

for some reason this "story" is plastered around the web, but does little to say what types of issues are actually fixed.

could be a case of a mechanic workshop saying they now have the capability to work on the latest 2015 Ferraris and Lamborghinis, and saying they have already fixed 10 this year... but when you investigate, find out they changed 4 tyres, 3 indicator globes and refilled the wiper tanks.


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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 19th, 2015, 12:00 
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Hi HaQue,

Does the information below apply only to SSDs ? I used to believe that Controllers for Flash Drives (not for SSDs) can be replaced by exact match ones as long as the original controller did not use dynamic XOR. Am I missing something here ?

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In almost all cases, Flash Chips are "married" to the controller. Meaning once the unit is put together, mass production tools will look at the flash chips and information about them will be configured in the firmware. Things such as timing, bad blocks etc. Simply being the exact same parts is not enough. There are a lot of different ways flash and controller chips are setup to become a storage device, and I doubt there would be many cases where a controller could be switched out.


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 Post subject: Re: TOSHIBA 256GB SSD-DATARECOVERY SOLUTION
PostPosted: February 19th, 2015, 17:41 
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No Matiw, mostly applies to flash drives as well.


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