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PostPosted: May 12th, 2015, 18:18 
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Hey guys, I've bough this adapter with the hopes of connecting it to a FTDI2232H breakout board for some testing.

Perhaps due to my lack of understanding on electronics I'm not able to understand the pinouts of the Xeltek TSOP48 SA247 ADAPTER.

Is there a datasheet I'm not being able to google anywhere ?

Thanks! :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Xeltek TSOP48 ADAPTER
PostPosted: May 12th, 2015, 18:43 
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http://www.microport.com.tw/product-dm/ ... 7-b005.pdf
http://wiki.laptop.org/images/1/1b/CL1_NAND_Hynix.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: Xeltek TSOP48 ADAPTER
PostPosted: May 12th, 2015, 18:59 
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Well, I didn't find very hard inserting the nand chip on the adapter, I just don't understand how to connect it to the FTDI board.

Take for example this pdf, figure 13. (I'm having trouble wiring this)

https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-14/mat ... fit-WP.pdf

thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge.

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 Post subject: Re: Xeltek TSOP48 ADAPTER
PostPosted: May 12th, 2015, 19:38 
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I don't understand your problem. I would think that the adapter's PCB and socket pinouts would have a 1:1 correspondence. You can verify this with a multimeter.

So pin #1 in your photo would be at the top left corner, pin #24 at the bottom left, pin #25 at the bottom right, and pin #48 at the top right corner.

You would then connect your FT2232H to the NAND as per Figure 6. Of course the NAND requires a 3.3V supply.

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 Post subject: Re: Xeltek TSOP48 ADAPTER
PostPosted: May 12th, 2015, 19:46 
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fzabkar wrote:
I don't understand your problem. I would think that the adapter's PCB and socket pinouts would have a 1:1 correspondence. You can verify this with a multimeter.

So pin #1 in your photo would be at the top left corner, pin #24 at the bottom left, pin #25 at the bottom right, and pin #48 at the top right corner.

You would then connect your FT2232H to the NAND as per Figure 6. Of course the NAND requires a 3.3V supply.


I'll check it with a multimeter, but I think I can sort it out now.

I'll post some pictures after I got it done :)

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 Post subject: Re: Xeltek TSOP48 ADAPTER
PostPosted: May 20th, 2015, 20:09 
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today I've soldered the remaining wires, thank you fzabkar for your help!

I'll post some photos once I'm in the office!

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 Post subject: Re: Xeltek TSOP48 ADAPTER
PostPosted: May 20th, 2015, 20:32 
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Not a quick job soldering all the wires is it? ;-)

I have seen a few different projects using these FTDI USB chips with sourcecode, so you might be able to trawl sourceforge if anyone still uses it, or github for some starter code.

Issues you may run into is WL Triple address chips and reading Bad Bytes, 16-bit Bus and some 8-16bit chips. Suggest for starters read datasheets and try chips that are standard MLC 8bit.


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 Post subject: Re: Xeltek TSOP48 ADAPTER
PostPosted: May 22nd, 2015, 19:54 
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Not a quick job soldering all the wires is it? ;-)

I have seen a few different projects using these FTDI USB chips with sourcecode, so you might be able to trawl sourceforge if anyone still uses it, or github for some starter code.

Issues you may run into is WL Triple address chips and reading Bad Bytes, 16-bit Bus and some 8-16bit chips. Suggest for starters read datasheets and try chips that are standard MLC 8bit.


To be honest soldering the wires took me 5 minutes, however due to my lack of electronics knowledge I was scared to do it the wrong way. I've gotten some .py scripts and it works like a charm on linux.

What took me more time in all this process was really understanding how to bypass issues when the chip manufacturer was unknown, so I added a If on one of the strings calling 0x0 ID = Unknown Manufacturer.

I think all this experience won't help me recover any data, but at least will give me some lights on how memory dumps are executed and how much chips are diferent from each other.

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 Post subject: Re: Xeltek TSOP48 ADAPTER
PostPosted: May 22nd, 2015, 20:48 
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If you look at the data sheets, one attribute is the chip ID. the first byte is usually the manufacturer, and the other 3 or 4 are usually describing the layout... how many CE, page size etc. look for the table in the data sheet, each byte can be a bitmask or use the whole byte. a datasheet usually covers a certain range of chips.


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 Post subject: Re: Xeltek TSOP48 ADAPTER
PostPosted: May 27th, 2015, 21:07 
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DRUG wrote:
Hey guys, I've bough this adapter with the hopes of connecting it to a FTDI2232H breakout board for some testing.

Perhaps due to my lack of understanding on electronics I'm not able to understand the pinouts of the Xeltek TSOP48 SA247 ADAPTER.

Is there a datasheet I'm not being able to google anywhere ?

Thanks! :roll:


Rather than screwing about I built this baby... it takes/exchanges sockets, and allows switching of signals for fault finding:
I then just build the attachments I need, yep that is a 'bus blaster', but I also have custom FPGA boards as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Xeltek TSOP48 ADAPTER
PostPosted: May 28th, 2015, 12:17 
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code_slave wrote:
DRUG wrote:
Hey guys, I've bough this adapter with the hopes of connecting it to a FTDI2232H breakout board for some testing.

Perhaps due to my lack of understanding on electronics I'm not able to understand the pinouts of the Xeltek TSOP48 SA247 ADAPTER.

Is there a datasheet I'm not being able to google anywhere ?

Thanks! :roll:


Rather than screwing about I built this baby... it takes/exchanges sockets, and allows switching of signals for fault finding:
I then just build the attachments I need, yep that is a 'bus blaster', but I also have custom FPGA boards as well.


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That looks nice, how well does it work ?

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 Post subject: Re: Xeltek TSOP48 ADAPTER
PostPosted: May 28th, 2015, 16:11 
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So does the Bus Blaster read the NAND? what mode.. SPI?

I know I have a bus Pirate but the blaster looks better for JTAG. Im sure I have one but if not Im ordering one. Do you use it for JTAG? if so what JTAG software do you use?


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