How likely radio waves may corrupt SSD device?

[RPT]

Hello

How likely is that any kind of mobile silencer (unknown - blocker,isolator) could damage m.2 SSD working device, which leads to m.2 SSD total failure in 12 hours? (Loss of partition)

Or is it 100% coincidence that m.2 SSD failed approximately 12 hour after there was unknown mobile phone connection interruption in the room for half an hour?
Which was likely in conjunction with other local incident on the same time.

Data loss was not certainly a purpose of mobile coverage attack but may be unexpected result if it's likely at all.

Right now looks like reformatting could fix m.2 unit, of course with loss of data.
I have ordered already a suitable adapter m.2 to SATA to find out data recovery possibilities.

Windows 8.1 - ASP900NS38-256GM-C ADATA SP900 M.2 2280 256GB SSD SATA6Gb/s

[RPT]

Thread was opened in a hurry. Sorry for that.

I believe that likeliness is extremely low that "radiowaves" can damage SSD.
When mobile network silencer quite just isn't a simple radio wave source, I guess and any similar records would be welcomed.
I believe most likely my notification may be as well a coincidence.

Fact is that 8 hours before computer SSD failed, in the room was used mobile network interruption device to cheat employers.

[HaQue]

I would LOVE to hear the full back story on this!

[RPT]

A known businessman just entered office and presented papers to sign, claiming having oral agreement of office manager, which wasn't true. As a result there is now equipment rent requirement worth of 2000 EUR, which actually was just left to the office by this man for temporary stock.
Several employers tried to get confirmation from manager using mobile phones but there was no mobile coverage or call was disconnected, which never has been happened before. On the same time there were WiFi interruptions in the next room. That is the whole story.

When 8 hours later m.2 SSD device failed in this room I just got an idea, that perhaps this may be in conjunction with described incident.
When very unlikely, I'm sure that under certain condition electronics malfunction is possible, especially if mobile network interrupters may use special techniques.

But this SSD failure just was an hint, I started to google for confirmation, that this businessman, with not very good reputation, might have been using mobile interrupter. Considering results of his visit, it's actually rather likely.

Today I finally got another m.2 device to test and it works fine in this mobo slot.
So there is something wrong with A-Data m.2 device.

MHDD test of problematic device doesn't start, error:
Init drive: Recal
An internal stack overflow has caused this session to be halted.
Change the stack settings in your config.sys file ...

If it might throw some light to the case
Any ideas?

[HaQue]

Thanks, very interesting! And makes you feel uncomfortable as well... So I hope that if confirmation could not be obtained, the papers were not signed. This sort of crime is happening a lot, though more commonly over email. Someone hacks company and watches email for a while until they learn the way the management talks, and what kinds of requests are normal. Then they send their own requests posing as management, and telling the staff they must not disclose this deal as it is secret. happed with Ubiquiti Networks for a large sum of $$ and various others.

But your SSD issue could be hard to solve.. I take it you need DATA? being a SandForce chip, this is going to be difficult. There are companies claiming to have solutions but so far I have seen 0 confirmation of this. They generally want an up-front "attempt fee". Which IMHO is Money for nothing.

Also, it is not wildly improbable the interference caused it, I would say it is in the realm of possibility, but unlikely. Would be hard to prove what happened and better to focus on getting done what you need instead of maybe what caused it.

[fzabkar]

FWIW, I can help you measure the voltage test points. I would need hires photos or scans of both sides.

[RPT]

FWIW, I can help you measure the voltage test points. I would need hires photos or scans of both sides.

m.2 SSD is initialized on boot up and Windows would be happy to format it again.
The data on drive is mostly backed up and it is believed that there was not any really business critical files lost AFAIK today.
But stuff which restoration takes several hours to restore from papers, which still is worth some efforts to recover and some documents which occasionally may be needed later and therefore good to have

How much meaning is in this MHDD error:

Init drive: Recal
An internal stack overflow has caused this session to be halted.
Change the stack settings in your config.sys file ...

Does it indicates a physical defect or may be just messed up partitioning?

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[HaQue]

you could also connect to serial terminal that's clearly marked and see what it says, though I don't think it will help

[RPT]

Thanks, very interesting! And makes you feel uncomfortable as well... So I hope that if confirmation could not be obtained, the papers were not signed.

When there is used mobile silencer by a publicly known person it's a different matter.
We have 3 facts:
1. Temporary mobile and Wifi connection lost.
2. False agreement papers signed, which hadn't been signed without circumstances of point 1.
3. SSD drive failure 8 hours later. (yet no info of exact failure type.

Plus already previously suspected "businessman".

I hoped very much that would be any more records about mobile silencers influences to electronic devices, especially to PC and SSD's.

[RPT]

you could also connect to serial terminal that's clearly marked and see what it says, though I don't think it will help

Device is under warranty and I'm not sure if it's worth to solder wires to PCB.
Or are there any suitable contact pads available in Ebay?

What application to use to talk/listen through serial port?

[HaQue]

you would use Putty (free) or hyperterminal if you like crappyness and a serial to usb device such as:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hobby-Components-UK-USB-to-serial-port-adapter-FTDI-with-3-3V-and-5V-outputs-/130923180691?hash=item1e7ba13293:g:A~oAAOxyi-ZTXiu2

connect RX of serial adapter to TX of SSD and TX of adapter to RX of SSD and connect GND of adapter to GND of SSD.

eg:
TX-RX
RX-TX
GND-GND

then look in device manager which com port your adapter is, usually COM3 or COM6, start putty and select "Serial". then power on your SSD. watch the output on putty. also setup a log file and turn logging on in putty for perusing later.

[RPT]

you would use Putty (free) or hyperterminal if you like crappyness and a serial to usb device such as:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hobby-Components-UK-USB-to-serial-port-adapter-FTDI-with-3-3V-and-5V-outputs-/130923180691?hash=item1e7ba13293:g:A~oAAOxyi-ZTXiu2

What I don't have is 3-4 pin test probe with 1.25 mm between pins.
Any suggestion is there any industrial reasonably priced multi pin 1.25mm clamp?
Anything on Ebay perhaps?

On Ebay I found "10pcs New P50-B1 Dia 0.68mm Length 16mm 75g Spring Pressure Test Probe Pogo Pin"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-New-P50-B1-Dia-0-68mm-Length-16mm-75g-Spring-Pressure-Test-Probe-Pogo-Pin/390545147874

Probe tips with crimper tool to wires would be more comfortable perhaps.

And thanks for refreshing my memory - I already have this USB-> serial converter.

And I bought 5 days ago from Ebay and is still on it's way a m.2->SATA converter, because direct on motherboard it's difficult to access and test device properly.
Likely it's also suitable to mount some test pins to contact PCB bottom side.

[jermy]

Device is under warranty and I'm not sure if it's worth to solder wires to PCB.

you can "carefully" (not to short something) use a pin header strip with no solder

[HaQue]

it is amazing what you can make with a bit of ingenuity and some polycarbonate and small screw/nuts and bolts and or Araldite.

or, get some pogo pins and solder them to a prototype PCB and run some wires back to the serial adapter.

[Green Slime]

It's Sandforce! I'm sure it failed by itself as it's only a matter of time with these... lucky it lasted this long. Unfortunately no known fix for data recovery yet.

[HaQue]

It's Sandforce! I'm sure it failed by itself as it's only a matter of time with these... lucky it lasted this long. Unfortunately no known fix for data recovery yet.

well half a dozen companies on the interwebs say they can recover from SandForce, but no evidence of it yet...