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Kingston 240GB shorting problem and theory idea
Posted: December 13th, 2016, 5:09
by Arik.Gart
Hello,
We got a case with Kingston SV300S37A/240G, when i checked it on PC3K i can see the SSD is shorting. unfortunately, the controller is SANDFORCE CL13824Z.
In theory, If i get a donor with the same controller and PCB, and i'll solder all memory chips to the donor PCB with same controller, what are the chances that would work?
Does anyone came a cross with this issue?
Thanks!
Re: Kingston 240GB shorting problem and theory idea
Posted: December 13th, 2016, 12:20
by fzabkar
In practice, it would make more sense to invest in a US$5 multimeter and locate the cause of the short.
If this is your board ...
https://www.insidegadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/IMG_3020.jpghttps://www.insidegadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/IMG_3022.jpg... then check the e-fuse ("35" marking) near the SATA power connector. This part can be removed and bridged with a wire or a picofuse. If the PCB has additional problems, then your PC3K board should provide the current limiting.
PCB protection devices - Electronic Fuse:
http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=1615&p=8872
Re: Kingston 240GB shorting problem and theory idea
Posted: December 15th, 2016, 9:46
by Arik.Gart
Hi fzabkar,
Thanks for the tip,
So i bridged with a wire,
http://imgur.com/a/SOvJABut still - the SSD don't get power. and same like before, on PC3K i have no led indicator on.
What i can do next?
Thanks.
Re: Kingston 240GB shorting problem and theory idea
Posted: December 15th, 2016, 13:57
by fzabkar
You have not addressed the cause of the short.
When you check the e-fuse, measure the resistances between 5Vin & Ground, 5Vin & 5Vout, and 5Vout & Ground. If the e-fuse is responsible for the short, then remove it. Otherwise, if the short is between 5Vout and Ground, and if the e-fuse is OK, then we need to do more investigating. Specifically, I would measure the resistance between ground and each of the coils.
- Code:
bridge
.----o o---.
| |
| |
SATA +5V | .-----------. |
| | | |
5Vin o--+--| --+--o 5Vout
| 5V e-fuse |
| |
'-----|-----'
|
|
|
|
===
GND
SATA Ground
Re: Kingston 240GB shorting problem and theory idea
Posted: December 18th, 2016, 14:26
by Arik.Gart
Well, apparently i can not edit the first post.
Here are both sides of the PCB:
http://imgur.com/a/qUsIgThanks dear friend.
Re: Kingston 240GB shorting problem and theory idea
Posted: December 18th, 2016, 16:31
by fzabkar
I would measure the resistance of each capacitor. Also measure the resistance from each coil to ground, and measure the resistance between ground and each of 5Vin and 5Vout. Use the 200 ohms range of your meter.
APW8804, Anpec, 3A, 1MHz. 2.6V - 6V input, 0.6V - 6V out, Synchronous Buck Converter, SOP-8P:
http://www.anpec.com.tw/ashx_prod_file.ashx?prod_id=687&file_path=20131024191901739.pdf&original_name=APW8804.pdfhttp://fa.itservice-bg.net/baza/dc_dc/data/APW8804.pdfAP3422, BCD Semiconductor, Dual 1.1MHz, 800mA Synchronous DC-DC Buck Converter, 2.5V - 5.5V in, marking BDC, DFN-3×3-10:
http://www.bdtic.com/datasheet/diodes/AP3422.pdfMP6400DJ-01, adjustable Programmable-Delay Supervisory Circuit, marking 4Bxx, TSOT23-6:
http://www.monolithicpower.com/desktopm ... nt?id=1003LM73, Texas Instruments, 2.7V, SOT-23, 11-14Bit Dig Temp Sensor w/ 2-Wire Interface, marking T730:
http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/lm73NIS5135, ON Semiconductor, 5V Electronic Fuse, marking 35:
https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NIS5135-D.PDF
Re: Kingston 240GB shorting problem and theory idea
Posted: December 19th, 2016, 8:11
by Arik.Gart
Thank a lot for your time and effort you've done on this amazing post! that was really helping!
I'm truly appreciate it dear friend.
Re: Kingston 240GB shorting problem and theory idea
Posted: December 19th, 2016, 17:23
by fzabkar
This is essentially the power supply layout of your PCB:
- Code:
bridge
.----o o---.
| |
| |
SATA +5V | .-----------. | 5Vout coil Vout1
| | | | .-------. ___
5Vin o--+--| --+--oo--+--| Reg1 |----UUU---+--oo---.
| 5V e-fuse | | '-------' | |
| | | --- .-.
'-----|-----' | .-------. --- | | load
| +--| Reg2 |- Vout2 |cap | | (MCU
| | '-------' | '-' SDRAM
| | | | NAND)
| | .-------. '---+---'
=== +--| Reg3 |- Vout3 |
GND | '-------' ===
| GND
SATA Ground | .-------.
'--| Reg4 |- Vout4
'-------'
Re: Kingston 240GB shorting problem and theory idea
Posted: July 13th, 2017, 19:31
by saqi4u
i have Kingston 240GB cl13824z won't detect with PC plz help ?
yesterday we have power issue in our store after that SSD stop working i want to recover my data
cl13824z controller ic getting warm but no short in v in and v out
any idea what could be