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strange msata kingston

Posted: November 6th, 2017, 13:06
by alemmat
Hello everyone, i receive a very strange msata ssd is made by kingston the model is SMSR150S3 128GB. And this ssd is like 2 ssd in one drive, because if you see the the board this have 2 controller (ps3108) 2 ram chips and 4 flash memories. When i put the drive in a adapter, msata to sata the mother recognize a drive with 64 GB o capacity. I want to ask if some one have a similar case and if exist a adapter for this ssd, because i belive this ssd is 2 drives in one pcb.

I ask to the people in acelab and they told me they dont have the experience with this kind of drive

any answer is hepfull

Thanks very much
my best regards

Re: strange msata kingston

Posted: November 6th, 2017, 15:09
by fzabkar
It appears to be a RAID.

These could be the SATA Tx/Rx capacitors:

RAID_Tx_Rx.jpg

Re: strange msata kingston

Posted: November 6th, 2017, 15:37
by data-medics
Yeah, that's from an Acer Aspire S5 or S7 laptop. It's a RAID 0 of two SSDs.

I've got a setup here so I can recover them, and so does Recovery Force who I shared the pinout with and also built his own adapter for these.

There is no standard adapters for these, only way is to buy one of these laptops and use a Linux live build or build your own adapter.

Re: strange msata kingston

Posted: November 6th, 2017, 15:45
by arvika
Of course adapter will work if both parts of disk works. But if one not work it must be assembled by chip-off method.

Re: strange msata kingston

Posted: November 6th, 2017, 16:03
by fzabkar
I can help with voltage measurements in case one of the SSDs is dead. I would need better photos, though.

Re: strange msata kingston

Posted: November 6th, 2017, 16:08
by data-medics
arvika wrote:Of course adapter will work if both parts of disk works. But if one not work it must be assembled by chip-off method.


There is no standard adapter for these, they use a proprietary mSATA pinout. Standard adapters will only allow access to one of the two SSDs, which is why the OP is seeing a 64Gb SSD even though it's really 128Gb. In my experience, these are usually fine, they just can't be copied using any standard adapter so computer techs give up.

Re: strange msata kingston

Posted: November 6th, 2017, 19:02
by arvika
data-medics wrote:
arvika wrote:Of course adapter will work if both parts of disk works. But if one not work it must be assembled by chip-off method.


There is no standard adapter for these, they use a proprietary mSATA pinout. Standard adapters will only allow access to one of the two SSDs, which is why the OP is seeing a 64Gb SSD even though it's really 128Gb. In my experience, these are usually fine, they just can't be copied using any standard adapter so computer techs give up.


Yes I know that. You are correct, usually it is fine.

Re: strange msata kingston

Posted: November 8th, 2017, 10:35
by alemmat
Thanks very much to all for the fast answer.

I clone one the drives, now a im a looking wath i can do to read the another.
the ssd wich i can read is with the decouplers capacitors of the right, i am thinking to take off this capacitors and soldring the decouplers capacitors of the left directly to contacts of my msata adapter.

If i made any progress i write this here

Re: strange msata kingston

Posted: November 8th, 2017, 19:10
by fzabkar
alemmat wrote:i am thinking to take off this capacitors and soldring the decouplers capacitors of the left directly to contacts of my msata adapter.

You would need to get the order right. To this end I would compare the traces leading to the controller on each side of the PCB. You may find that one Tx/Rx set is inverted with respect to the other.