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| Author: | rudd-o [ November 20th, 2019, 12:49 ] |
| Post subject: | SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
Hello Almost 3 weeks ago during a cloning proccess a Brand New Patriot Burst 480 which had some freezing issues (Phison S11 [ps3111-s11], * 2 x 256G [Toshiba? not sure] Nand) frozen at 54% of the transfer process and thereafter was identified as SATAFIRM S11 0kb (Lost its logical Partition). The most information I gathered from Russian and Chinese forums is that caused by a firmware bug leading the translator loosing its stable communication and making the drive useless (SSD can be swiched to safe mode by sorting pins and probably can be reset and recreate its volume with phison utilities but this action will vanish data completely.. Currently the only available tools are developed by Rusolut ( NAND/EMMC/UFS chip Friendly ) and Acelabs (Legacy Drives Friendly) . A domestic DataRecovery Center which using Acelabs tools after 2 weeks reported that drive is unreadable and has probably NAND issues. ( At least this is what I got as answer ) So if anyone had similar case(s) what was the success rates and with what platform data recovery achieved ? Also is it possible that Acelabs not having full support for Phison S11 ? |
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| Author: | ddrecovery [ November 20th, 2019, 18:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
If the data recovery center it went to was Northwind Data Recovery and they deemed it unrecoverable. Then it is unrecoverable. If you didn't, then can I suggest you send it to them. |
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| Author: | HaQue [ November 20th, 2019, 19:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
PS3111 either hard or currently not possible with chip off. The ECC is not the usual type that is regularly reverse engineered, and there is also some shenanigans going on with XOR. If PC3k cant support it using traditional HDD methods then I think you are S.O.L. Quote: PS3111 2.5’’ SATA SSD applies the LDPC (Low Density Parity Check) of ECC algorithm http://tophitech.com.cn/uploads/2016/12/252048579143.pdf |
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| Author: | pcn [ November 21st, 2019, 7:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
Just had a similar case Patriot Burst 480 reported as SATAFIRM S11 with full capacity but every lba 00. Loader was no problem but translator building not possible with this drive. Kind regards |
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| Author: | rudd-o [ November 21st, 2019, 19:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
ddrecovery wrote: If the data recovery center it went to was Northwind Data Recovery and they deemed it unrecoverable. Then it is unrecoverable. If you didn't, then can I suggest you send it to them. With electronics there is no 100% . So don't be so absolute. For the rest that replied probably the S11 due to ECC is kinda incompatible with current available tools and techniques. ChipOff sure is incompatible because there is no way to guess or emulate the way data blocks spread (May be only if PHISON Electronics Corp share their confidential info of S11). I cannot accept an answer that data cannot recovered because of NAND etc... |
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| Author: | fzabkar [ November 22nd, 2019, 0:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
Are you willing to try this? In-circuit recovery of SSDs with "weak" NAND: http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=2740 |
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| Author: | pcimage [ November 22nd, 2019, 3:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
rudd-o wrote: ddrecovery wrote: If the data recovery center it went to was Northwind Data Recovery and they deemed it unrecoverable. Then it is unrecoverable. If you didn't, then can I suggest you send it to them. With electronics there is no 100% . So don't be so absolute. For the rest that replied probably the S11 due to ECC is kinda incompatible with current available tools and techniques. ChipOff sure is incompatible because there is no way to guess or emulate the way data blocks spread (May be only if PHISON Electronics Corp share their confidential info of S11). I cannot accept an answer that data cannot recovered because of NAND etc... This PS3111 controller uses LPDC correction codes, rather than BCH codewords for ECC, which is currently not supported with any tools as far as I know. The “data blocks spread” is irrelevant for “chip off” until ECC and XOR is solved. You may have to accept an unrecoverable case if NAND has degraded very badly, but if you’re willing to send to UK I can take a look for you using PC3K flash and report back on actual found issues. I have to also agree with “ddrecovery” that if it’s already been to Northwind in Thessaloniki, then it’s likely to be not recoverable at this moment in time! If it’s not been to them, then send it to them! |
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| Author: | pcimage [ November 22nd, 2019, 3:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
fzabkar wrote: Are you willing to try this? In-circuit recovery of SSDs with "weak" NAND: http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=2740 Tbh... I don’t think that’ll work out once it’s gone this far (likely translator damage) 
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| Author: | rudd-o [ January 18th, 2020, 13:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
Have recovered 90% of the data i wanted by JTAG and injection of custom loaders which i found on some chinese forums for both partitions. Hardware i used was ifix universal programmer and a modded version of easy jtag plus. |
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| Author: | fzabkar [ January 19th, 2020, 15:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
rudd-o wrote: Have recovered 90% of the data i wanted by JTAG and injection of custom loaders which i found on some chinese forums for both partitions. Hardware i used was ifix universal programmer and a modded version of easy jtag plus. Nice work! Maybe you could try for the remaining 10% by varying the NAND supply voltage? |
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| Author: | Data-Salvage [ September 12th, 2022, 9:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
amazing!! can you share the modified loader? |
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| Author: | Data-Salvage [ September 12th, 2022, 9:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
rudd-o wrote: Have recovered 90% of the data i wanted by JTAG and injection of custom loaders which i found on some chinese forums for both partitions. Hardware i used was ifix universal programmer and a modded version of easy jtag plus. Sir can you share the modified loader? |
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| Author: | HaQue [ November 21st, 2022, 18:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SATAFIRM S11 corruction. |
Nice that the OP came back and described the solution with enough info to help others as well. Don't often see that. Good work figuring it out, navigating those forums isn't always easy! Just noticed post date. But well done anyway! |
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