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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 21st, 2022, 11:14 
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Something is wrong if C20 is 0 ohm.
Probably C20 is ok, and also U4, because if they were shorted i would aspect some heat on those.
In my opinion some component connected in parallel to C20 must be shorted, but i don't know what.
L1 might be shorted, but is very unlikely that a coil shorts himself (but it can happen). It's not easy to determine if a coil is shorted, wait for further advice from fzabkar.

I see flux on U1, have you changed it?
If so, why?

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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 21st, 2022, 11:39 
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michael chiklis wrote:
L1 might be shorted, but is very unlikely that a coil shorts himself (but it can happen). It's not easy to determine if a coil is shorted, wait for further advice from fzabkar.
There's no ground on it to short to, if it failed open it wouldn't have continuity.

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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 21st, 2022, 13:01 
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zaidkagzi47 wrote:
Little update about L1 I see back of the pcb.

Readining is...

Volt:
L1 = 0.00

Continuity:
L1 = Beeping.

I'm asking you to measure the resistance between each coil and ground, not the resistance of each coil. The coils are the tests points for each of the supply voltages.

Beeping is useless because it won't distinguish between a genuinely good low resistance (eg an MCU core resistance of 100 ohms) and a short.

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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 21st, 2022, 13:22 
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fzabkar wrote:
zaidkagzi47 wrote:
Little update about L1 I see back of the pcb.

Readining is...

Volt:
L1 = 0.00

Continuity:
L1 = Beeping.

I'm asking you to measure the resistance between each coil and ground, not the resistance of each coil. The coils are the tests points for each of the supply voltages.

Beeping is useless because it won't distinguish between a genuinely good low resistance (eg an MCU core resistance of 100 ohms) and a short.


Hello fzabkar sir,

L1, L2, L3, Continuity check with ground Beeping...

Ohms checking with ground ( 200 Range )

L3 = 20.7
L2 = 4.3
L1 = 0.01

I also removed L1 and check L1, L2, L3 Continuity with ground Beeping...


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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 21st, 2022, 13:56 
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Measure resistance between L1 pads and ground now that L1 is removed.
Don't use beep (continuity mode), we need to know the ohms.

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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 21st, 2022, 14:03 
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All those reading are low. I would say that the controller is dead. Compare the readings against your donor SSD.

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PostPosted: August 21st, 2022, 14:08 
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Lardman wrote:
michael chiklis wrote:
L1 might be shorted, but is very unlikely that a coil shorts himself (but it can happen). It's not easy to determine if a coil is shorted, wait for further advice from fzabkar.
There's no ground on it to short to, if it failed open it wouldn't have continuity.


I mean that coils might get shorted themself
Coil short-circuit means a fault in winding materials such as coils, stators, transformers, etc., in which the wire windings, normally separated from each other by an insulating film, are in electrical contact with each other.

But as i said before, it is very unlikely.

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michael chiklis wrote:
Coil short-circuit means a fault in winding materials such as coils, stators, transformers, etc., in which the wire windings, normally separated from each other by an insulating film, are in electrical contact with each other.
It's a coil not a transformer there's only one set of windings, but it makes no never mind as it's not the OP's problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 21st, 2022, 14:47 
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Lardman wrote:
michael chiklis wrote:
Coil short-circuit means a fault in winding materials such as coils, stators, transformers, etc., in which the wire windings, normally separated from each other by an insulating film, are in electrical contact with each other.
It's a coil not a transformer there's only one set of windings, but it makes no never mind as it's not the OP's problem.


i agree, it's not the problem.
Very likely is the controller as Franc said

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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 21st, 2022, 14:57 
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fzabkar wrote:
All those reading are low. I would say that the controller is dead. Compare the readings against your donor SSD.

Hello Fzabkar sir,
I haven't Donor ssd.


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PostPosted: August 21st, 2022, 14:59 
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michael chiklis wrote:
Measure resistance between L1 pads and ground now that L1 is removed.
Don't use beep (continuity mode), we need to know the ohms.

hello michael chiklis sir,
Tomorrow i will check and update it.


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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 22nd, 2022, 2:16 
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michael chiklis wrote:
Measure resistance between L1 pads and ground now that L1 is removed.
Don't use beep (continuity mode), we need to know the ohms.


Hello Sir,

As you say and i checked, result is 67.1 ( 200 Range )


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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 22nd, 2022, 3:28 
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67,1 ohm in reference to ground, but from which L1 pad ?
And how much ohms between the other L1 pad and ground?

Is better if you post a pic that shows us this measures.

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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 22nd, 2022, 4:56 
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michael chiklis wrote:
67,1 ohm in reference to ground, but from which L1 pad ?
And how much ohms between the other L1 pad and ground?

Is better if you post a pic that shows us this measures.


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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 22nd, 2022, 8:19 
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I think 67 ohms is a low resistance but not a direct short.
I don't know what does it real mean, maybe the controller is not completely shorting that line?

What type of flux have you used for soldering?
Maybe has been formed a bit of moisture under the controller that is barely shorting it?

I'm not an engineer but fzabkar it is... in his opinion very likely there is something wrong on the controller.
Maybe he can say something more about this low resistance.

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 Post subject: Re: Adata ssd not detect
PostPosted: August 22nd, 2022, 10:13 
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michael chiklis wrote:
I think 67 ohms is a low resistance but not a direct short.
I don't know what does it real mean, maybe the controller is not completely shorting that line?

What type of flux have you used for soldering?
Maybe has been formed a bit of moisture under the controller that is barely shorting it?

I'm not an engineer but fzabkar it is... in his opinion very likely there is something wrong on the controller.
Maybe he can say something more about this low resistance.


Dear Sir,

i am using local company flux. i did not apply any flux near firmware controller or on the firmware controller. second thing that i doubt also on firmware controller, because of when powering on ssd, firmware controller getting to hot.


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