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SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 13th, 2023, 14:28
by gb6063
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I Have this ssd, no power and no detect. The led light also dint light up.
Already check the 0hms resistor 5V is entering.

Any solution to find the fault. No Capacitor are not getting hot.

Thank you in advance.

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 13th, 2023, 14:53
by Lardman
Potato quality images aren't going to help.

If 5v is going into the resistor is coming out ? Have you checked the power rails for shorts or for voltages, what is current drawn , what do you get from terminal, what tools do you have? Despite what youtube would have you believe, shorted caps on drives are the exception not the norm.

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 13th, 2023, 15:33
by Arch Stanton
It may be the potato images, but it looks disturbing, as if that NAND chip is crushed .. And is that inductor (? R47) missing a piece?

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 13th, 2023, 15:40
by Lardman
Possibly damaged opening the casing, as long as it has continuity it should be ok though. The bottom nand ? - I thought that might be liquid or flux.

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 14th, 2023, 8:09
by gb6063
It is not water damage, i use the alcohol. Wiat i will send the clear picture. The resistor 5V is entering and going out 5V.

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 14th, 2023, 8:11
by gb6063
Arch Stanton wrote:It may be the potato images, but it looks disturbing, as if that NAND chip is crushed .. And is that inductor (? R47) missing a piece?



Yes the R45 above have no piece. Thus, this will effect it.

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 14th, 2023, 12:41
by fzabkar
I think the inductor will be OK, despite the chipped ferrite. However, it does beg the question, how did it get that way?

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 14th, 2023, 13:39
by gb6063
fzabkar wrote:I think the inductor will be OK, despite the chipped ferrite. However, it does beg the question, how did it get that way?


When i open, it came like this. No, accidently broken so what. When open the ssd, already like this.


here is the clear view.

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 14th, 2023, 16:14
by fzabkar
As @Lardman has already asked, what voltages do you measure at the inductors? They're those square thingies near the "GU2A" converters.

Is that a crack in the corner of the leftmost NAND?

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 14th, 2023, 22:19
by fzabkar
BL8028, Shanghai Belling, Synchronous Buck Converter, 1.5A, 2MHz, 2.6V - 5.5V in, marking GUyw, SOT23-5:
https://www.belling.com.cn/media/file_object/bel_product/BL8028/datasheet/BL8028_V1.13_en.pdf

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 15th, 2023, 0:13
by gb6063
fzabkar wrote:As @Lardman has already asked, what voltages do you measure at the inductors? They're those square thingies near the "GU2A" converters.

Is that a crack in the corner of the leftmost NAND?


No it is not a crack. it is alcohol i used to clean.

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 15th, 2023, 0:15
by gb6063
fzabkar wrote:As @Lardman has already asked, what voltages do you measure at the inductors? They're those square thingies near the "GU2A" converters.

Is that a crack in the corner of the leftmost NAND?


i will measure and update you the coltage. and the nand is not cracked

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 15th, 2023, 2:16
by Amarbir[CDR-Labs]
fzabkar wrote:As @Lardman has already asked, what voltages do you measure at the inductors? They're those square thingies near the "GU2A" converters.

Is that a crack in the corner of the leftmost NAND?


Well,
I think his tool just fly passed that zone creating a line ,The voltage regulator output according to datasheet is 1.8v ,This should be voltage for processor right

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 15th, 2023, 2:28
by fzabkar
I think these two SOT23-5 ICs are LDO regulators, but there are other possibilities with the same markings.

FP6141-30S3G, Fitipower, 100mA, 3.0V, Ultra-Low Quiescent Current LDO Regulator, marking BE=, SOT23-5:
https://pdffile.jiepei.com/pdf_file_D/20220411/pdf_pdf_jiepei/pdf8/FITIPOWER/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet_9084953/81764570/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet.pdf

FP6141-18S3G, Fitipower, 100mA, 1.8V, Ultra-Low Quiescent Current LDO Regulator, marking BC=, SOT23-5:
https://pdffile.jiepei.com/pdf_file_D/20220411/pdf_pdf_jiepei/pdf8/FITIPOWER/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet_9084953/81764570/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet.pdf

The controller would require a Vcore supply of around 1V. I don't know what the NAND and I/O supplies should be, though.

According to this PMIC ...

https://www.qorvo.com/products/d/da006800

... the SM2259 has the following voltage profile:

Part number of PMIC -- ACT88325VA122-T
Vin -- 5V
Vbuck1 -- 3.3V
Vbuck2 -- 1.1625V/0.95
Vbuck3 -- 1.8/1.2V
Vldo1 -- 1.8V
Vldo2 -- 3.3V

This NAND decoder identifies the NAND supplies as "Vcc: 3.3V, VccQ: 1.8V/1.2V":

https://nand.gq/#/decode?pn=29F64B2ALCTH1

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 15th, 2023, 11:10
by gb6063
fzabkar wrote:I think these two SOT23-5 ICs are LDO regulators, but there are other possibilities with the same markings.

FP6141-30S3G, Fitipower, 100mA, 3.0V, Ultra-Low Quiescent Current LDO Regulator, marking BE=, SOT23-5:
https://pdffile.jiepei.com/pdf_file_D/20220411/pdf_pdf_jiepei/pdf8/FITIPOWER/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet_9084953/81764570/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet.pdf

FP6141-18S3G, Fitipower, 100mA, 1.8V, Ultra-Low Quiescent Current LDO Regulator, marking BC=, SOT23-5:
https://pdffile.jiepei.com/pdf_file_D/20220411/pdf_pdf_jiepei/pdf8/FITIPOWER/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet_9084953/81764570/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet.pdf

The controller would require a Vcore supply of around 1V. I don't know what the NAND and I/O supplies should be, though.

According to this PMIC ...



Here is the power rail
https://www.qorvo.com/products/d/da006800

... the SM2259 has the following voltage profile:

Part number of PMIC -- ACT88325VA122-T
Vin -- 5V
Vbuck1 -- 3.3V
Vbuck2 -- 1.1625V/0.95
Vbuck3 -- 1.8/1.2V
Vldo1 -- 1.8V
Vldo2 -- 3.3V

This NAND decoder identifies the NAND supplies as "Vcc: 3.3V, VccQ: 1.8V/1.2V":

https://nand.gq/#/decode?pn=29F64B2ALCTH1

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 15th, 2023, 11:32
by gb6063
fzabkar wrote:I think these two SOT23-5 ICs are LDO regulators, but there are other possibilities with the same markings.

FP6141-30S3G, Fitipower, 100mA, 3.0V, Ultra-Low Quiescent Current LDO Regulator, marking BE=, SOT23-5:
https://pdffile.jiepei.com/pdf_file_D/20220411/pdf_pdf_jiepei/pdf8/FITIPOWER/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet_9084953/81764570/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet.pdf

FP6141-18S3G, Fitipower, 100mA, 1.8V, Ultra-Low Quiescent Current LDO Regulator, marking BC=, SOT23-5:
https://pdffile.jiepei.com/pdf_file_D/20220411/pdf_pdf_jiepei/pdf8/FITIPOWER/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet_9084953/81764570/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet.pdf

The controller would require a Vcore supply of around 1V. I don't know what the NAND and I/O supplies should be, though.

According to this PMIC ...




https://www.qorvo.com/products/d/da006800

... the SM2259 has the following voltage profile:

Part number of PMIC -- ACT88325VA122-T
Vin -- 5V
Vbuck1 -- 3.3V
Vbuck2 -- 1.1625V/0.95
Vbuck3 -- 1.8/1.2V
Vldo1 -- 1.8V
Vldo2 -- 3.3V

This NAND decoder identifies the NAND supplies as "Vcc: 3.3V, VccQ: 1.8V/1.2V":

https://nand.gq/#/decode?pn=29F64B2ALCTH1


this is the reading of the components.

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 15th, 2023, 14:12
by gb6063
fzabkar wrote:I think these two SOT23-5 ICs are LDO regulators, but there are other possibilities with the same markings.

FP6141-30S3G, Fitipower, 100mA, 3.0V, Ultra-Low Quiescent Current LDO Regulator, marking BE=, SOT23-5:
https://pdffile.jiepei.com/pdf_file_D/20220411/pdf_pdf_jiepei/pdf8/FITIPOWER/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet_9084953/81764570/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet.pdf

FP6141-18S3G, Fitipower, 100mA, 1.8V, Ultra-Low Quiescent Current LDO Regulator, marking BC=, SOT23-5:
https://pdffile.jiepei.com/pdf_file_D/20220411/pdf_pdf_jiepei/pdf8/FITIPOWER/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet_9084953/81764570/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet.pdf

The controller would require a Vcore supply of around 1V. I don't know what the NAND and I/O supplies should be, though.

According to this PMIC ...

https://www.qorvo.com/products/d/da006800

... the SM2259 has the following voltage profile:

Part number of PMIC -- ACT88325VA122-T
Vin -- 5V
Vbuck1 -- 3.3V
Vbuck2 -- 1.1625V/0.95
Vbuck3 -- 1.8/1.2V
Vldo1 -- 1.8V
Vldo2 -- 3.3V

This NAND decoder identifies the NAND supplies as "Vcc: 3.3V, VccQ: 1.8V/1.2V":

https://nand.gq/#/decode?pn=29F64B2ALCTH1

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Already found out the issue, the controller is faulty, it shorting.

is this controller bonded with the NAND or not.

Re: SSD 2.5inch No Power No Detect

Posted: June 16th, 2023, 5:40
by Amarbir[CDR-Labs]
fzabkar wrote:I think these two SOT23-5 ICs are LDO regulators, but there are other possibilities with the same markings.

FP6141-30S3G, Fitipower, 100mA, 3.0V, Ultra-Low Quiescent Current LDO Regulator, marking BE=, SOT23-5:
https://pdffile.jiepei.com/pdf_file_D/20220411/pdf_pdf_jiepei/pdf8/FITIPOWER/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet_9084953/81764570/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet.pdf

FP6141-18S3G, Fitipower, 100mA, 1.8V, Ultra-Low Quiescent Current LDO Regulator, marking BC=, SOT23-5:
https://pdffile.jiepei.com/pdf_file_D/20220411/pdf_pdf_jiepei/pdf8/FITIPOWER/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet_9084953/81764570/FP6141-15S5G_datasheet.pdf

The controller would require a Vcore supply of around 1V. I don't know what the NAND and I/O supplies should be, though.

According to this PMIC ...

https://www.qorvo.com/products/d/da006800

... the SM2259 has the following voltage profile:

Part number of PMIC -- ACT88325VA122-T
Vin -- 5V
Vbuck1 -- 3.3V
Vbuck2 -- 1.1625V/0.95
Vbuck3 -- 1.8/1.2V
Vldo1 -- 1.8V
Vldo2 -- 3.3V

This NAND decoder identifies the NAND supplies as "Vcc: 3.3V, VccQ: 1.8V/1.2V":

https://nand.gq/#/decode?pn=29F64B2ALCTH1


Well,
This NAND I am Doing -> https://forum.hddguru.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=43409 ,VCC i have set to 3.3V and VCCq to 1.8V for Readretry to work best .So yes some nands are like this .
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