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Author:	terminator2 [ July 7th, 2023, 1:48 ]
Post subject:	Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
Guys I have got order to reduce size of pen drives to 2GB and clone from master pen drive (quantity 100 nos initially ) .Its from an automation company and they want to use there own custom OEM pen drives 16GB / 32GB in size. Like hard disks where we can reduce size to any lower value ,is there any tool to reduce size of pen drives? I am ready to purchase such a tool if it is reasonably charged.

Author:	Amarbir[CDR-Labs] [ July 7th, 2023, 4:31 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
terminator2 wrote: Guys I have got order to reduce size of pen drives to 2GB and clone from master pen drive (quantity 100 nos initially ) .Its from an automation company and they want to use there own custom OEM pen drives 16GB / 32GB in size. Like hard disks where we can reduce size to any lower value ,is there any tool to reduce size of pen drives? I am ready to purchase such a tool if it is reasonably charged. Sir , Every pendrive will have a controller ,The controllers programmer designed by the controller company is responsible to program firmware into pendrive initially ,I think that tool will be able to do it

Author:	Arch Stanton [ July 7th, 2023, 7:41 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
Yeah, look into MPtools (here for example: https://flashboot.ru/, good luck with that!) or find some of those promo USB flash drive websites to do it for you.

Author:	terminator2 [ July 8th, 2023, 2:44 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
Amarbir[CDR-Labs] wrote: terminator2 wrote: Guys I have got order to reduce size of pen drives to 2GB and clone from master pen drive (quantity 100 nos initially ) .Its from an automation company and they want to use there own custom OEM pen drives 16GB / 32GB in size. Like hard disks where we can reduce size to any lower value ,is there any tool to reduce size of pen drives? I am ready to purchase such a tool if it is reasonably charged. Sir , Every pendrive will have a controller ,The controllers programmer designed by the controller company is responsible to program firmware into pendrive initially ,I think that tool will be able to do it Thanks Amarbir

Author:	terminator2 [ July 8th, 2023, 3:00 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
Arch Stanton wrote: Yeah, look into MPtools (here for example: https://flashboot.ru/, good luck with that!) or find some of those promo USB flash drive websites to do it for you. Thanks Arch I think MPTOOL is designed for specific MCu's . I will ask client to send one sample pen drive and check which mcu is used.

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terminator2 [ July 11th, 2023, 9:23 ]

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Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?

I have got a 4gb usb 2.0 pen drive from customer to reduce size to 2GB and clone with his master 2gb pen drive. Order is aprox. 100 units per month .
I have got mcu details using chipgenius and usbflash info
pen drive has alcor mcu.
While there are several tools available on usbdev.ru site , I don't know which tools will be having function to reduce size.
Someone familiar with alcor might be know more about speciifc tool

EVM USB 2.0 pen drive

Description: [H:]USB Mass Storage Device(Generic Flash Disk)
Device Type: Mass Storage Device

Protocal Version: USB 2.00
Current Speed: High Speed
Max Current: 200mA

USB Device ID: VID = 058F PID = 6387
Serial Number: BB568F69

Device Vendor: Generic
Device Name: Mass Storage
Device Revision: 0100

Manufacturer: Generic
Product Model: Flash Disk
Product Revision: 8.07

Controller Vendor: Alcor Micro
Controller Part-Number: Unknown [FA00] - F/W 3503
Flash ID code: ECD7947A54C3 - Samsung K9GBGD8X0A - 1CE/Single Channel [MLC-8K] -> Total Capacity = 4GB

Possible Flash Part-Number
----------------------------
[1CE]K9GBGD8U0A x 1 pcs/Channel x 1 Channel
[1CE]K9GBGD8X0A x 1 pcs/Channel x 1 Channel

Flash ID mapping table
----------------------------
[Channel 0] [Channel 1]
ECD7947A54C3 --------
-------- --------
-------- --------
-------- --------
-------- --------
-------- --------
-------- --------
-------- --------

Volume: H:
Controller: Alcor 0xFA00
Possible Memory Chip(s):
Samsung K9GBGD8U0A
Memory Type: MLC
Flash ID: ECD7947A 54C3
Flash CE: 1
Chip F/W: 3503
Group: 98
VID: 058F
PID: 6387
Manufacturer: Generic
Product: Mass Storage
Query Vendor ID: Generic
Query Product ID: Flash Disk
Query Product Revision: 8.07
Physical Disk Capacity: 4026531840 Bytes
Windows Disk Capacity: 4018077696 Bytes
Internal Tags: AYWR-SY24
File System: FAT32
Relative Offset: 64 KB
USB Version: 2.00
Declared Power: 200 mA
ContMeas ID: 886F-01-00
Microsoft Windows 10 x64 Build 19045

Volume: H:
Controller: Alcor 0xFA00
Possible Memory Chip(s):
Samsung K9GBGD8U0A
Memory Type: MLC
Flash ID: ECD7947A 54C3
Flash CE: 1
Chip F/W: 3503
Group: 98
VID: 058F
PID: 6387
Manufacturer: Generic
Product: Mass Storage
Query Vendor ID: Generic
Query Product ID: Flash Disk
Query Product Revision: 8.07
Physical Disk Capacity: 4026531840 Bytes
Windows Disk Capacity: 4018077696 Bytes
Internal Tags: AYWR-SY24
File System: FAT32
Relative Offset: 64 KB
USB Version: 2.00
Declared Power: 200 mA
ContMeas ID: 886F-01-00
Microsoft Windows 10 x64 Build 19045

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Author:	SWM [ July 11th, 2023, 14:51 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
Quote: Controller: Alcor 0xFA00 Possible AU6989SNCS-TA We enter the setup - leave the password blank - click OK. On the Bad Blocks tab, select FIX CAPACITY or BIN and set the desired size. https://www.usbdev.ru/articles/a_alcor/alcor-optimize/ On the Information tab in Vendor String, type terminator2 .

Author:	terminator2 [ July 12th, 2023, 1:07 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
SWM wrote: Quote: Controller: Alcor 0xFA00 Possible AU6989SNCS-TA We enter the setup - leave the password blank - click OK. On the Bad Blocks tab, select FIX CAPACITY or BIN and set the desired size. https://www.usbdev.ru/articles/a_alcor/alcor-optimize/ On the Information tab in Vendor String, type terminator2 . WooHoo SWM Thanks a lot for pointing out this I will give it a try & hope to make it successful.

Author:	terminator2 [ July 12th, 2023, 2:14 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
SWM wrote: Quote: Controller: Alcor 0xFA00 Possible AU6989SNCS-TA We enter the setup - leave the password blank - click OK. On the Bad Blocks tab, select FIX CAPACITY or BIN and set the desired size. https://www.usbdev.ru/articles/a_alcor/alcor-optimize/ On the Information tab in Vendor String, type terminator2 . Thanks SWM , I have been successful to reduce size of the pen drive and grab this order. Appreciate your efforts and help This is the power of hddguru forum's single post.

Author:	Arch Stanton [ July 12th, 2023, 14:05 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
terminator2 wrote: Arch Stanton wrote: Yeah, look into MPtools (here for example: https://flashboot.ru/, good luck with that!) or find some of those promo USB flash drive websites to do it for you. Thanks Arch I think MPTOOL is designed for specific MCu's . I will ask client to send one sample pen drive and check which mcu is used. I am referring to mptools in general.

Author:	terminator2 [ July 13th, 2023, 10:55 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
Arch Stanton wrote: terminator2 wrote: Arch Stanton wrote: Yeah, look into MPtools (here for example: https://flashboot.ru/, good luck with that!) or find some of those promo USB flash drive websites to do it for you. Thanks Arch I think MPTOOL is designed for specific MCu's . I will ask client to send one sample pen drive and check which mcu is used. I am referring to mptools in general. Thanks Arch

Author:

Rudra [ July 19th, 2023, 6:20 ]

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Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?

SWM wrote:

Quote:

Controller: Alcor 0xFA00

Possible AU6989SNCS-TA
We enter the setup - leave the password blank - click OK.
On the Bad Blocks tab, select FIX CAPACITY or BIN and set the desired size.
https://www.usbdev.ru/articles/a_alcor/alcor-optimize/
On the Information tab in Vendor String, type terminator2 .

Hi SWM
I am trying to use your instructions to reduce size of pen drives for a customer . I have tried v22.11.16 which is last available on usbdev.ru site.
Customer wants to use in his automation equipment & due to limitations of stack memory his processor can detect pen drives of upto 2GB with sector size of 512 bytes.
While one pen drive was successful and got approved by customer one didn't . I will have to check availability of pen drives here in India first as customer has very low budget ( $5 per pen drive including pen drive and size reduction) .
I want to know where can I get clean original versions of the softwares for different microcontrollers ? I want to know detailed instructions as well how to use these tools as my knowledge is very basic and limited.
Appreciate any help.

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Rudra [ July 19th, 2023, 12:21 ]

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Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?

I have remotely checked customers 8GB pen drives and have found following details -

Description: [F:]USB Mass Storage Device(VendorCo ProductCode)
Device Type: Mass Storage Device

Protocal Version: USB 2.00
Current Speed: High Speed
Max Current: 100mA

USB Device ID: VID = 346D PID = 5678
Serial Number: 1338851196940059341

Device Vendor: USB
Device Name: Disk 2.0
Device Revision: 0200

Manufacturer: VendorCo
Product Model: ProductCode
Product Revision: 2.00

Controller Vendor: FirstChip
Controller Part-Number: FC212T
Flash ID code: 989476042020 - KIOXIA - 1CE/Single Channel [MLC]

Tools on web: http://dl.mydigit.net/search/?type=all&q=FC212T

Possible Flash Part-Number
----------------------------
Unknown

Flash ID mapping table
----------------------------
[Channel 0] [Channel 1]
989476042020 --------
1A2B3C4DE5D4 --------
183800000000 --------
-------- --------
989476042020 --------
-------- --------
-------- --------
-------- --------

Volume: F:
Controller: Unknown
Possible Memory Chip(s): Not available
VID: 346D
PID: 5678
Manufacturer: USB
Product: Disk 2.0
Query Vendor ID: VendorCo
Query Product ID: ProductCode
Query Product Revision: 2.00
Physical Disk Capacity: 8053063680 Bytes
Windows Disk Capacity: 8036253696 Bytes
Internal Tags: AB3X-QAG4
File System: FAT32
Relative Offset: 32 KB
USB Version: 2.00
Declared Power: 100 mA
ContMeas ID: 8F7F-02-00
Microsoft Windows 10 x64 Build 19045
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http://www.antspec.com/usbflashinfo/
Program Version: 9.4.0.645

I am unable to identify which is mcu and tool I can try.

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Author:

terminator2 [ July 20th, 2023, 10:49 ]

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Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?

Rudra wrote:

Hi controller is firstchip .Try FirstChip FC1178/FC1179 MpTools V1.0.5.2 (2022-06-01) .I don't know whether it supports this controller

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Author:	Rudra [ July 21st, 2023, 1:21 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
terminator2 wrote: Rudra wrote: I have remotely checked customers 8GB pen drives and have found following details - Description: [F:]USB Mass Storage Device(VendorCo ProductCode) Device Type: Mass Storage Device Protocal Version: USB 2.00 Current Speed: High Speed Max Current: 100mA USB Device ID: VID = 346D PID = 5678 Serial Number: 1338851196940059341 Device Vendor: USB Device Name: Disk 2.0 Device Revision: 0200 Manufacturer: VendorCo Product Model: ProductCode Product Revision: 2.00 Controller Vendor: FirstChip Controller Part-Number: FC212T Flash ID code: 989476042020 - KIOXIA - 1CE/Single Channel [MLC] Tools on web: http://dl.mydigit.net/search/?type=all&q=FC212T Possible Flash Part-Number ---------------------------- Unknown Flash ID mapping table ---------------------------- [Channel 0] [Channel 1] 989476042020 -------- 1A2B3C4DE5D4 -------- 183800000000 -------- -------- -------- 989476042020 -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- Volume: F: Controller: Unknown Possible Memory Chip(s): Not available VID: 346D PID: 5678 Manufacturer: USB Product: Disk 2.0 Query Vendor ID: VendorCo Query Product ID: ProductCode Query Product Revision: 2.00 Physical Disk Capacity: 8053063680 Bytes Windows Disk Capacity: 8036253696 Bytes Internal Tags: AB3X-QAG4 File System: FAT32 Relative Offset: 32 KB USB Version: 2.00 Declared Power: 100 mA ContMeas ID: 8F7F-02-00 Microsoft Windows 10 x64 Build 19045 ------------------------------------ http://www.antspec.com/usbflashinfo/ Program Version: 9.4.0.645 I am unable to identify which is mcu and tool I can try. Hi controller is firstchip .Try FirstChip FC1178/FC1179 MpTools V1.0.5.2 (2022-06-01) .I don't know whether it supports this controller I tried this software and unfortunately 2 out of 4 pen drives client sent were damaged .They are showing no media present. I a utterly disappointed and have given up further efforts due to following - 1) lack of knowledge 2) lack of proper tools -- so many variants and tools origin of which is unknown and give malware warnings 3) No official tutorials or proper literature available except russian /chinese forums This is not my cup of tea Thank you

Author:	higgsboson [ July 23rd, 2023, 8:24 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
Rudra wrote: terminator2 wrote: Rudra wrote: I have remotely checked customers 8GB pen drives and have found following details - Description: [F:]USB Mass Storage Device(VendorCo ProductCode) Device Type: Mass Storage Device Protocal Version: USB 2.00 Current Speed: High Speed Max Current: 100mA USB Device ID: VID = 346D PID = 5678 Serial Number: 1338851196940059341 Device Vendor: USB Device Name: Disk 2.0 Device Revision: 0200 Manufacturer: VendorCo Product Model: ProductCode Product Revision: 2.00 Controller Vendor: FirstChip Controller Part-Number: FC212T Flash ID code: 989476042020 - KIOXIA - 1CE/Single Channel [MLC] Tools on web: http://dl.mydigit.net/search/?type=all&q=FC212T Possible Flash Part-Number ---------------------------- Unknown Flash ID mapping table ---------------------------- [Channel 0] [Channel 1] 989476042020 -------- 1A2B3C4DE5D4 -------- 183800000000 -------- -------- -------- 989476042020 -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- Volume: F: Controller: Unknown Possible Memory Chip(s): Not available VID: 346D PID: 5678 Manufacturer: USB Product: Disk 2.0 Query Vendor ID: VendorCo Query Product ID: ProductCode Query Product Revision: 2.00 Physical Disk Capacity: 8053063680 Bytes Windows Disk Capacity: 8036253696 Bytes Internal Tags: AB3X-QAG4 File System: FAT32 Relative Offset: 32 KB USB Version: 2.00 Declared Power: 100 mA ContMeas ID: 8F7F-02-00 Microsoft Windows 10 x64 Build 19045 ------------------------------------ http://www.antspec.com/usbflashinfo/ Program Version: 9.4.0.645 I am unable to identify which is mcu and tool I can try. Hi controller is firstchip .Try FirstChip FC1178/FC1179 MpTools V1.0.5.2 (2022-06-01) .I don't know whether it supports this controller I tried this software and unfortunately 2 out of 4 pen drives client sent were damaged .They are showing no media present. I a utterly disappointed and have given up further efforts due to following - 1) lack of knowledge 2) lack of proper tools -- so many variants and tools origin of which is unknown and give malware warnings 3) No official tutorials or proper literature available except russian /chinese forums This is not my cup of tea Thank you Don't get discouraged so quickly . Mistakes are big steps in making success. There is no tool available for fc212T , ask customer to send different make pen drives check alcor which is having more tools.

Author:	SWM [ July 24th, 2023, 13:37 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
Maybe just google search "reduce size of usb flash drive"? And if you format in FAT16, and so the limit is 2GB ... Quote: 1 Answer Run cmd. Type DISKPART. Then press enter. This will run diskpart tool. Type LIST VOLUME. Then press enter. This will list all volumes available on your PC. ... Type SELECT VOLUME #VOLUME NUMBER#. Then press enter. ... Lastly, type SHRINK DESIRED=#amount to decrease in MB#. then press enter. ... Done. 16 мар. 2018 г.

Author:	Rudra [ July 25th, 2023, 0:57 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
Thanks SWM and Higgsboson for your encouraging comments I have given pen drive by reducing size using diskpart. Even pen drive was getting detected as 2Gb in disk mangement. But since customer is interfacing it with his automation equipment he wants actual technically 2GB (not logically as he is not reading it through PC) Someone claiming manufacturer has ordered bare boards and nand chips from china and have assembled but there prototype pen drives failed to get detected in his automation equipment. Since customer was serious I tried MPtools. Thank you all of you helping me.

Author:	SWM [ July 25th, 2023, 1:50 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
Not for all controllers have free utilities on the Internet. And not for all types of NAND have binary code there. It is easier to choose a flash drive for available utilities.

Author:	Amarbir[CDR-Labs] [ July 25th, 2023, 4:56 ]
Post subject:	Re: Size reduction (set max ) possible for USB pen drives ?
Rudra wrote: Thanks SWM and Higgsboson for your encouraging comments I have given pen drive by reducing size using diskpart. Even pen drive was getting detected as 2Gb in disk mangement. But since customer is interfacing it with his automation equipment he wants actual technically 2GB (not logically as he is not reading it through PC) Someone claiming manufacturer has ordered bare boards and nand chips from china and have assembled but there prototype pen drives failed to get detected in his automation equipment. Since customer was serious I tried MPtools. Thank you all of you helping me. Well, Customer is a industrial machines client and has enough money ,If i had this order i would have purchased a few drives and then selected what i could reduce and then given him a quote of pen drive plus my services ,When you work like a miser in india ,They treat you like one ,Think About It ..

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