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 Post subject: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 1st, 2023, 6:14 
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hello,

I saw many trouble with this SSD ... and I've a trouble :(

I worked and suddently my computer was freezed . I tried to restart and nothing happened

if I put this SSD on another computer with another disk, start is very very slow ( boot is done on the another disk) .

on the explorer, 870 disk is seen with 2 partitions but I'm not able to go inside. In the device tab, I can see this disk ( a least name). On the partition tab, I can see 2 partitions.

If i use magician, after a very long time, this 870 evo is not seen .

i saw several topics for this model but I didin't find how to try to repair my disk to retrieve datas ...

if someone have an idea, i'll be happy :), thanks


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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 1st, 2023, 6:48 
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It cannot be repaired, due to nand flash degradation & possibly now has turned into a firmware problem.
Shut it down and clone it, if still possible, with something like ddrescue or hddsuperclone (check their tutorials).
Then use data recovery software to recover the files to yet another drive.

Otherwise, find a data recovery specialist (not a computer shop).

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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 1st, 2023, 7:31 
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hello Labtech,

I'm not able to clone this disk;( so only way is ask to a specialt?

Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 1st, 2023, 7:48 
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I've had a number of these where although the capacity is correct the UA was not accessible despite my best efforts and they've had to be returned unrecovered. There is no support for EVO's in pc3K, if it's got that far you can try a dr lab but manage your expectations.

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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 1st, 2023, 8:12 
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hello Lardman,

thanks for your answer. so disk to the bin :(


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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 1st, 2023, 10:05 
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do you know if there is a way to have a SWD or JTAG pins on PCB? I didn't find a datasheet :(


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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 1st, 2023, 19:04 
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tcccorp wrote:
do you know if there is a way to have a SWD or JTAG pins on PCB? I didn't find a datasheet :(

I think people use something like JTAGulator.

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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 2nd, 2023, 2:25 
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It's gonna be a long trip, be prepared.

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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
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tcccorp, This might give you a little insight - http://www2.futureware.at/~philipp/ssd/ ... Manual.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 5th, 2023, 14:58 
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hello all

Thanks a lot for your answer. So I think if I m able to change controler, it ll work?


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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 5th, 2023, 15:18 
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Nope, controller is most likely just fine.

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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
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tcccorp wrote:
So I think if I m able to change controler, it ll work?
Unlikely - the controller itself is probably fine, the firmware is stored on the nand chips .

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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
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Lardman wrote:
tcccorp, This might give you a little insight - http://www2.futureware.at/~philipp/ssd/ ... Manual.pdf


Thanks a lot Lardman, it is very interesting ! I ve to read this pdf in details and learn more !


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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 7th, 2023, 5:22 
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Lardman wrote:
tcccorp wrote:
So I think if I m able to change controler, it ll work?
Unlikely - the controller itself is probably fine, the firmware is stored on the nand chips .


hello
so it does mean, even I m be able to find jtag or swd, i should "dump" flash but it ll be in raw and I'll not be able to recover something because at least it ll be xored and data could be everywhere.... I'm right ?


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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
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you cannot dump NAND through jtag, at least not as easily as you probably think. It would require programming skills in multiple platforms, or knowledge about boundary scan parameters, and on top of that it would be very slow. Then you would face the problems everybody faces who tries chip-off on these...

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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 14th, 2023, 5:50 
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hello,

for your information, trouble was too many error on the nand. PC3000 was able to read this ssd and retrieve some data :)


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 Post subject: Re: SSD Samsung 870 EVO 1 To
PostPosted: October 16th, 2023, 17:39 
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Thanks for confirming the initial diagnosis suspicion.

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